Members AngryGoldfish Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 I rate movies by how much they impacted me as well as how excellently they were constructed. I see a film as a way to make me feel something and a way in which to impact soceity. And it's kinda funny, really, that your criticizing another man's opinion on all this by .5 of a mark. That's kinda sad don't you think? People like you annoy me, actually. The character of Doc from Back to the Future wasn't considered a classic when the film came out, but it is now. Is it a role that someone like Morgan Freeman would play? Probably not. Does that make it any less important or worthwhile? No. Was playing the Terminator as poignant or poetic as Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood? No, but it was still relevant and very inspiring to a lot of different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 9520575 Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Which scene are you talking about? I don't know, I thought there were multiple instances of obvious parallel to OWS themes The one where they went to the stock market the cop says something like, its not my money or some stuff. I mean it all seemed to me to be a failed state rather then the OWS movement. It was pretty silly when catwomans girlfriend was like this house belongs to the people now. Oh yeah, cause a guy who just armed a bunch of criminals, blew up most of the city and is now holding it hostage with a nuclear bomb, is really who we should look for for guidance. To me, it seemed like it was alluding to Som Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aristotle Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yeah, it wasn't a perfect metaphor... But then I thought the plot was messy in general anyway. I'm in the theater, ready to watch it again in a few minutes. Maybe my opinion will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kimme Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Speaking of "perfect trilogy". If "The Human Centipede 3" isn't a complete letdown, he will probably be a strong contender for this title At least there will be a centipede with 600 people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 9520575 Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 -The final fight between Batman and Bain was odd. Why does Batman now have the upper hand? I didn't get the cause/effect of that Have you not watch Hulk Hogan wrestle? Its the old, oh no the hero is going to loose. Whats this? Oh man he's getting back up, oh now he's ten times stronger. He's got the eye of the tiger,Face to face, out in the heat, Hangin' tough, stayin' hungry, They stack the odds, Still we take to the street, For the kill with the skill to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zappa74 Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 just saw this movie holy smokes was it good. way better than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members matchpoint Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 I thought it was pretty meh The storyline of super-hero with self-pity feelings followed by omg-im-awesome-after-all gets old. I agree with the wrestling metaphor...its as cheesy as that. The fighting scenes were pretty lame, the movie felt rushed and the final twists weren't that surprising. Just my 2cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mirrorball Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yeah, it wasn't a perfect metaphor... But then I thought the plot was messy in general anyway. I'm in the theater, ready to watch it again in a few minutes. Maybe my opinion will change. Well, you have to remember the film was written several months before the OWS movement, so it's not an intentional take on that. Just nice timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t-rey Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Still can't out-Joker Mark Hamill, though. Hell yeah, Hamill does an amazing Joker in the cartoon and the games. As far as my thoughts on the flick. I really liked Bane in this one - glad to see they actually made him an intelligent villain in this one. Stayed reasonably true to Nolan's vision and the comics. Glad that he is stopping with the trilogy, and I hope that these movies set the bar for future superhero flicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kimme Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Finally going to see this today.Damn you europe for late releases.STOKED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuffFuzz Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Great, great film. Bale, my god, once again nailed it. So glad he had a lot of meat to chew on this go round. Howard Hughes Bruce was pretty creepy. Especially when he was standing on the balcony of Wayne Manor overlooking the memorial for Harvey Dent. Very, very ominous atmosphere there. First time he shows up as Batman, what a boss. He totally had that hardened, seasoned edge to Batman throughout the film. Tom Hardy as Bane was what I've wanted since 1993, when I had the Knightfall pogs, and was pretty freaked out at Batman being just destroyed like that by Bane. Their first encounter is damn well iconic. The physicality they both had was awesome. The way Batman was backing Bane up and throwing those close quarters punches, with all the grunting and battle cries, only for Bane to do that spin move and totally rock Batman. Wow, and the back breaking, oh man, just awesome. Anyone still dissing Chris for hand to hand combat can kiss my ass. He delivered the goods on all the hand to hand combat in this one. But yeah, Bane was one bad mofo, intelligent, captivating, scary and downright evil with his revolutionary BS. Anne Hathaway was the female lead that this franchise needed, but we as fans who criticized her did not deserve. I was on board with her since her casting, but she was even better than I had anticipated. Her chemistry with Bale was fantastic. Seeing them strutting down the snow-laced streets of Gotham to the Bat-pod, what a comic moment there. JGL, love that guy, but I felt he would stick out too much in this film. Nah, I was wrong about that. He was great, dude has some serious acting chops. And he was Robin after all, very nice touch Chris. There's lots more I want to say about the film, but I really gotta see this again. So much depth and epic moments. Watching it in Imax totally kicked my ass. But with that being said, I had a few qualms with TDKR. Firstly, Nolan's whole "{censored} you" to the audience with the new Bane dub in the prologue was admirable, but he nearly destroyed that scene with it. Still enjoyed the hell out of it, but totally wish Bane had his voice like the rest of the film in it. Biggest complaint was that some of the scenes felt cut down. Bruce meeting Gordon in the hospital was suppose to be one of the most emotional scenes in the film, but it was less than 15 seconds. Foley not being run over by the tumbler like in the set pics was for sure the worst cut job in the film. When Talia says run them over, all of them, and they pan back to Foley and he's on the ground dead, because he was "shot", was really jarring. Talia's whole reveal was nice, I really thought it was Bane who climbed out, not Talia. So Nolan got me again. But I felt Miranda/Talia in it was a little off. I found myself second guessing the movie because I have followed the filming since they first started last May. So I had my own ideas of how particular scenes would flow in my head, and that kind of cost me my "virgin" experience seeing it for the first time. Over all, I'm giving it a 8.5/9 out of 10. I believe it will be a solid 9 once I see it again. There was just too much greatness in the film, over a few gripes, that I can honestly say Nolan has broken the third movie curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members delayed delay Posted July 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 ^ pretty much my only complaint was Bruce not being able to figure out who Miranda was after they slept together and he noticed the League of Shadows mark on her back. WTF??? YOU EVEN NOTICED THE MARK! ... And to add insult to injury, she even said, "Do what's necessary" at one point... How the CRAP could he not connect the dots there? I mean... He heard Raz Ah Ghul say that probably half a dozen times in Batman Begins... That doesn't make any sense to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Player99 Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 boring movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeartfeltDawn Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Biggest complaint was that some of the scenes felt cut down. Exactly. It felt like there were two movies in here that were squashed down to one. Scenes and characters didn't get enough time to develop and really stick in the mind of the audience. It sounds strange to say that a 160 movie wasn't long enough but this one really wasn't. Not nearly enough Gordon in it for me and he was grossly underused. Really the movies are about him and Wayne. There was a small piece in TDKR about Gordon's wife going to Cleveland and taking the kids. This should have been expanded upon as Gordon's loss is as big as Wayne's loss of his parents and Rachel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Saw it Monday night. Didn't see what the fuss was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Oh yeah, a couple other trilogies: Godfather: 10 Godfather II: 9 Godfather III: 7 Matrix: 7.5 Matrix II: 3 Matrix III: 4 Terminator: 7.5 Terminator II: 9 Terminator III: 6 Star Wars I: -9 Star Wars II: -9 Star Wars III: -7 Back to the Future: 8 Back to the Future II: 7 Back to the Future III: 7 X-Men: 6.5 X-Men II: 6.5 X-Men II: -6.5 Mad Max: 8 Road Warrior: 6 Thunderdome: 4 Die Hard: 9 Die Hard II: 7 Die Hard 3: 7.5 Night of the Living Dead: 8 Dawn of the Dead: 9 Day of the Dead: 7 Lord of the Rings: 8 Two Towers: 8 Return of the King: 8 Jurassic Park: 8 Lost World: 6 Jurassic Park III: 4 At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul: 8 This Night I'll Posses Your Corpse: 7 Awakening of the Beast: 7 And before someone is like omg godfather II the same as terminator II???? v pls, etc. I'm judging these based on what they set out to do and those moves set out to do totally different things. Terminator 2 is about a 9 for an action movie and Godfather II is about a 9 imo for a crime drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Player99 Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Squidbillies is a much better show. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylor. Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 ^ pretty much my only complaint was Bruce not being able to figure out who Miranda was after they slept together and he noticed the League of Shadows mark on her back. WTF??? YOU EVEN NOTICED THE MARK! Eesh. I didn't notice that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frenchji Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Eesh. I didn't notice that. Same here.. there was a mark.. and Bruce noticed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aristotle Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yeah, the mark was pretty obvious. It was shown when she was stoking the fire. "...the nights we had a fire we felt very rich indeed". Bruce even touched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhuxtable Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Maybe he knew but just wanted to tap dat ass a few more times so he played dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AngryGoldfish Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Oh yeah, a couple other trilogies:Godfather: 10Godfather II: 9Godfather III: 7Matrix: 7.5Matrix II: 3Matrix III: 4Terminator: 7.5Terminator II: 9Terminator III: 6Star Wars I: -9Star Wars II: -9Star Wars III: -7Back to the Future: 8Back to the Future II: 7Back to the Future III: 7X-Men: 6.5X-Men II: 6.5X-Men II: -6.5Mad Max: 8Road Warrior: 6Thunderdome: 4Die Hard: 9Die Hard II: 7Die Hard 3: 7.5Night of the Living Dead: 8Dawn of the Dead: 9Day of the Dead: 7Lord of the Rings: 8Two Towers: 8 Return of the King: 8Jurassic Park: 8Lost World: 6Jurassic Park III: 4At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul: 8This Night I'll Posses Your Corpse: 7Awakening of the Beast: 7And before someone is like omg godfather II the same as terminator II???? v pls, etc. I'm judging these based on what they set out to do and those moves set out to do totally different things. Terminator 2 is about a 9 for an action movie and Godfather II is about a 9 imo for a crime drama. You also judge a movie within each trilogy, so Die Hard might not be better than The Fellowship of the Ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 Through A Glass Darkly: 8.5 Winter Light: 7.5 The Silence: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nomenclature Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 my biggest problem with these movies is that batman isn't batman. he did pretty much no detective work at all. he gives up repeatedly. the entire series was more like Year One spread over what, ten years? the character never gets out of the "begins" phase. He's supposed to be super smart (and he can apparently program an autopilot system that his engineers couldn't do?) and the world's greatest detective but is more about rushing in, punching and blowing {censored} up. batman doesn't kill either. Batman doesn't quit, and doesn't retire. he's insane, really, and will only stop when he dies (and not a fake death). this version also doesn't seem to have a problem with guns. Nolan-verse batman isn't the (idea of) batman I grew up with and love, this is some elseworld type stuff where batman never really grows into his full potential and is a quitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aristotle Posted July 25, 2012 Members Share Posted July 25, 2012 I wondered about the ending in that French cafe and whether Bruce was retiring as Batman. I think Bruce wasn't actually hanging up his hat, but wanted to make Alfred's wish for him come true - to settle down with a woman and find peace - or at least lead him to believe it came true. And it wasn't that the engineers COULDN'T fix the autopilot system, it was that there were more pressing concerns within the company than low priority repairs on a piece of kit that was "off the books". Now that you mention it though, a little more of a glimpse in Batman's detective work would have been cool. There was certainly some, but yeah, that was a big part of why I loved Batman growing up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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