Members Zemmy Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 i'd post the pic of the monkey sucking himself, but this thread might recover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yeah, and I reconsidered....But your ability to judge people completely based on a few forum posts is still completely working. At the point of that post, ALL of the other posts you made in this thread defending being a scumbag is all I had to go on. If I would see evidence to the contrary after the fact, I would have to weigh that into my "judgement" also, but so far, you were about zero for five. So, if you really expect me to take your "honor and integrity" seriously, not that I expect you even care, but if you did, but you would be starting at the opposite end of what I personally would consider honorablility and integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 i'd post the pic of the monkey sucking himself, but this thread might recover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oaksong Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 At the point of that post, ALL of the other posts you made in this thread defending being a scumbag is all I had to go on. If I would see evidence to the contrary after the fact, I would have to weigh that into my "judgement" also, but so far, you were about zero for five. Not really a good start to our relationship, dont you think? no, go back, you missed one. Then I mostly checked out of it other than to tell people to stop insulting one another. When I made my first post, I read, had an emotional reaction, responded, then got into 'combat' mode chatting. I came back, smacked myself, and said "I was wrong, I suck.". And moved on. Which is why I suggested people cool down. Not everybody posting defenses is evil, and nobody is perfect. And the personal attacks DO NOT help anything. I cooled down when someone said something that didn't occur as an attack. It made it easier to reconsider and actually think instead of react to the attack. It just works better. And of course, I did it again in my earlier response to you. So, sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 no, go back, you missed one. Then I mostly checked out of it other than to tell people to stop insulting one another.When I made my first post, I read, had an emotional reaction, responded, then got into 'combat' mode chatting. I came back, smacked myself, and said "I was wrong, I suck.". And moved on.Which is why I suggested people cool down. Not everybody posting defenses is evil, and nobody is perfect. And the personal attacks DO NOT help anything.I cooled down when someone said something that didn't occur as an attack. It made it easier to reconsider and actually think instead of react to the attack. It just works better.And of course, I did it again in my earlier response to you. So, sorry about that. OK. I did miss it. But I stand by your initial response as creepy. If you retracted it and gave it some thought, and realised that you wouldnt want to do business with the person YOU were presenting yourself as, then no harm no foul. I didnt see your retraction. Like I just said in the above post. I will happily weigh all the evidence, good and bad. I had nothing to go on up till that point except very negetive posts from someone I wouldnt want to do business with, except a post I didnt see which might have taken some of the edge off of what I posted. Stiil, the internet is a dangerous place if you want to change your mind after posting. I have definitely been guilty of it, but once it is out there, it is out there. and I have to be completely honest with you, If we were to do some kind of transaction together, I would always have to wonder which one of YOU was showing up for the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oaksong Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 OK. I did miss it.But I stand by your initial response as creepy. If you retracted it and gave it some thought, and realised that you wouldnt want to do business with the person YOU were presenting yourself as, then no harm no foul. I didnt see your retraction. Like I just said in the above post. I will happily weigh all the evidence, good and bad. I had nothing to go on up till that point except very negetive posts from someone I wouldnt want to do business with, except a post I didnt see which might have taken some of the edge off of what I posted. Stiil, the internet is a dangerous place if you want to change your mind after posting. I have definitely been guilty of it, but once it is out there, it is out there. and I have to be completely honest with you, If we were to do some kind of transaction together, I would always have to wonder which one of YOU was showing up for the deal. And that is completely fair. On my end, I have been dealing with some AC warranty BS, in 100degree heat, for a week. I was (and still kinda am, but at least the AC is now working as of about 20 minutes ago), in a very "{censored} the world and die" sort of mood. I admit to being cranky, I definitely get that way. Anyway, thanks for at least looking at my last post. At the same time, I think everyone should take a step back. Things (and especially people) are not black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 And that is completely fair. On my end, I have been dealing with some AC warranty BS, in 100degree heat, for a week. I was (and still kinda am, but at least the AC is now working as of about 20 minutes ago), in a very "{censored} the world and die" sort of mood. I admit to being cranky, I definitely get that way.Anyway, thanks for at least looking at my last post.At the same time, I think everyone should take a step back. Things (and especially people) are not black and white. I spent four hours today on the roof of the Seminole Hardrock Casino. I measured the temperature up there at noon at 117. degrees fareignheit. I threw up and then I went home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 You're both human beings. Get on the phone to the man or woman and talk it through. Say that you made a mistake and ask them to reconsider. If they refuse, you may need to live with it, but I doubt most reasonable people would create trouble. Many many guitars come and go. They'd have to be a bit of a twat to not just take the money back really. But then, there are some parts of the world where people are so focussed on their own individual 'rights', that they would seek litigation for someone sneezing on their dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 You're both human beings. Get on the phone to the man or woman and talk it through. Say that you made a mistake and ask them to reconsider. If they refuse, you may need to live with it, but I doubt most reasonable people would create trouble. Many many guitars come and go. They'd have to be a bit of a twat to not just take the money back really. But then, there are some parts of the world where people are so focussed on their own individual 'rights', that they would seek litigation for someone sneezing on their dog. Come on! You cant just go sneezing on someones dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Has love broken out yet? This could be the first time someone has ever changed their point of view in a thread since the beginning of the internet. Whatever you do, don't go down to the Political Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Come on! You cant just go sneezing on someones dog. Unless the dog was the one selling the guitar, and then changed his mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Come on! You cant just go sneezing on someones dog. i threw up on someone's dog once... the morning after a party... i looked down and thought "bloody hell... i don't remember eating that" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 i threw up on someone's dog once... the morning after a party... i looked down and thought "bloody hell... i don't remember eating that":lol:That's a pretty good aim you have there. You also don't seem to have very effective stomach acid, unless you were eating rocks again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TruSlice Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 I'd certainly never do business with the OP again: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 I think my only option is to ask the seller and offer may Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian May Posted July 28, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yep...I did and they said "no thanks please send me the guitar" or words to that effect. So its going. Oh well nevermind. Such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yep...I did and they said "no thanks please send me the guitar" or words to that effect. So its going. Oh well nevermind. Such is life. Oh well. Never mind. I'm sure it was a crap guitar anyway. And now it's THEIR crap guitar! Mwa ha ha ha haaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yep...I did and they said "no thanks please send me the guitar" or words to that effect. So its going. Oh well nevermind. Such is life. You made the right choice. Think things through a little better next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted July 28, 2010 Members Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yep...I did and they said "no thanks please send me the guitar" or words to that effect. So its going. Oh well nevermind. Such is life. No need for tears, you recognised good advice and did the right thing when you really didn't have to. That's the kind of thing that earns street props and self respect. Way to go bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted July 29, 2010 Members Share Posted July 29, 2010 You never know in life, maybe with the money you'll get an even better deal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BryanMichael Posted July 29, 2010 Members Share Posted July 29, 2010 He thinks that spouting cliche Latin terms will somehow prove his point. Translated it means that the law doesn't concern itself with trifles (he's saying that trademark violations are too small a matter for a court to get involved with). Of course, as has been the case all the way through this thread, he's a bit confused as to reality vs. his perception thereof. It's a legal principle that is is used more in cases where, for example, a local ordinance requires you to build 6 feet from the property line, but you build 5' 11.5" from the property line. Technically, you are in violation of local building codes, but it's unlikely that any court would entertain an action regarding the matter.Yes, I believe (please prove me wrong) that Trademark violations in the form of "This guy has a Fender logo tatooed on his arm!" are going to be so trivial that Fender themselves will not pursue it. Much the same as "This guy, onetime at band camp put a Fender decal on the headstock of this one guitar he had that was really a Squier!!! He has no integrity!" :cry:If you feel that strongly about it, I suggest you put yer money where your mouth is and go tattle tale to Fender for {censored}s sake- do something USEFUL!:facepalm:When it comes to the OP, I would have backed out of the deal and kept my guitar with all apologies and moved on with my life. And if I were on the receiving end of that transaction and I suffered NO LOSS, I would easily forgive, forget, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 29, 2010 Members Share Posted July 29, 2010 Yes, I believe (please prove me wrong) that Trademark violations in the form of "This guy has a Fender logo tatooed on his arm!" are going to be so trivial that Fender themselves will not pursue it. Much the same as "This guy, onetime at band camp put a Fender decal on the headstock of this one guitar he had that was really a Squier!!! He has no integrity!" :cry: If you feel that strongly about it, I suggest you put yer money where your mouth is and go tattle tale to Fender for {censored}s sake- do something USEFUL! :facepalm: When it comes to the OP, I would have backed out of the deal and kept my guitar with all apologies and moved on with my life. And if I were on the receiving end of that transaction and I suffered NO LOSS, I would easily forgive, forget, and move on. I actually agree with you on that part, as long as he offers at least a token of compensation for the situation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 29, 2010 Members Share Posted July 29, 2010 You made the right choice. Think things through a little better next time.and for God's sake, don't post about it here.. You knew it'd be a {censored}storm because most everyone here is gonna support the buyer looking for a new guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 77BlazerK5 Posted July 29, 2010 Members Share Posted July 29, 2010 Completely agrre. I dont do a ton of business on this forum , but I DO do occasional business. I will now be adding a bunch of names to my list of people never to even consider doing business with after seeing their responses to this thread. Some of those people supprised me, some of them didnt. All I can say, is thanks for the warning, scumbags. +1,000,000!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted July 29, 2010 Members Share Posted July 29, 2010 If it were me, I would have emailed the person telling them that the guitar was theirs and would be shipped to them promptly....unless they'd be willing to sell it back to me. If they were willing to sell it back at a reasonable price, the problem would have been solved. If not, I'd have sent the guitar. So, you did the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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