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  • If Your Music Collection Could Only Be Vinyl or CD, Which Would You Choose?

    I know a lot of people are going to say "vinyl," but for me, it would be CD. Less weight, easily rippable for portable music devices, no scratches...and frankly, I don't think either one sounds "better," just slightly different. I know people have problems with the concept of converting to digital, but the EQ applied by the RIAA standard is about as unnatural as it comes.

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    I would say CD, no question, largely because I can rip them easily and they take up less space. And I need space badly. I have a small place.
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    • #3
      That said, I still have over 400 records. I sold 600 of them about 15, 16 years ago because I really really needed the space.
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      • #4
        For me it's no contest - CD. Of course, I'd rather have whatever the masters were done on - tape or high-res digital files... but CD is far more practical than vinyl or tape is. I don't have a turntable in my car.
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        • #5
          PS Great point about the RIAA equalization curves Craig!
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          • #6
            I love my vinyl, but CDs all the way.
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            • #7
              CD without hesitation. Vinyl is purely a novelty, at least for me anyway.

              I have a teenage daughter who recently went through the Vinyl kick. I asked her the other day why she had slack off on listening to them and she stated it was just too much of a hassle.


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              • #8
                CD of course, but 24 bit CD would be better. Initially when CDs came out in the 80's they seemed to be real TINNY sounding. Perhaps the engineers were still mixing for vinyl back then and overcompensating on highs, but I have since heard many recordings which are less harsh. But then there are many new styles of "music" which don't seem to care at all about fidelity. Vinyl or CD wouldn't make a difference for them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by techristian View Post
                  But then there are many new styles of "music" which don't seem to care at all about fidelity. Vinyl or CD wouldn't make a difference for them.

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                  Many new styles of music have low end that vinyl can't reproduce well.
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                  • #10
                    I have 1200+ LPs, 200+ singles and 78s, and maybe 500 or so CDs.

                    If I could have the LP content in CD form -- without those dreadful 'bonus' tracks, false starts, redundant outtakes, and radio commercials (!) and the ham-fisted remastering that make so many re-releases so crushingly disappointing/annoying/unlistenable -- that would be my choice.


                    But I'd MUCH rather have it all pre-ripped into FLAC and loaded into my online library where I could blend it with my streaming music subscription picks. That's how I have things set up now and it's largely great. I wouldn't mind if my service (Google's All Access) would switch to FLAC -- but that is now available from a couple of providers for about double the monthly ($20/mo instead of $10) so, if I really cared, I could think about switching. But the fact that while I have (on one very familiar test track) reliably sussed the diff between 256 and 320 (I know I was shocked), I nonetheless couldn't tell a 320 LAME mp3 from full CD quality, and money, it still doesn't fall from trees.


                    On the sound of vinyl. I've thought about this a lot and have talked at fair length to an audiophile pal about it. As the saying goes, everything that rises must converge, and the best vinyl playback (and my pal has sunk new car money in the phono components) sounds very close to good CD playback over the same rig. Still different. And then, even with the best, most virgin vinyl in the best shape, there is still the bedrock sound of needle in groove. I've never, ever, at normal listening level, once lifted a tone arm out of a groove and heard no difference. There's a sound. It's not an ugly sound. I'm sure some feel it's a comforting sound. I don't.

                    And then, having worked the middle ground with my own turntables -- the last to grace my rig was a next-to-top Dual manual with a very nice cart and careful setup -- as well as, of course, the crap that I started out with and that was still better than most folks had -- I have to say that between finding and buying decent vinyl -- the last vinyl record I bought new was premium priced for the time, from Eno's own private label and marred with scratches and surface noise -- and the rigors of maintenance and maintaining proper setup -- the only thing I REALLY miss about vinyl is the album sleeve art.


                    The CD was always a poor platform for album art.

                    [Brace yourself for the I'm glad you asked me about X vs Y -- that's a great question -- and now I'm going to tell you all about Z part. And thank you very much.]

                    Happily, the advent of streaming allows album art to begin taking its 'rightful' place (and size).

                    When I start out the day, I usually 'flip' (more like slide) through my 'library' on my stream service -- the album view is laid out on one page and so is easy to quickly move up and down through* even though I have about 1800 items in my album list. Since the desktop version is browser-based I can resize things to whatever is convenient. I usually have it in an 8 to 10 across grid. I have the player set for shuffle. When I see an album I want in the day's mix, I just drag and drop it onto the queue button -- not much more than a quick mouse flick, basically. As I add more albums, they shuffle into the queue below the current playing track.

                    Google All Access has, no question, the best queue system of the 7 services I've used -- MusicMatch OnDemand (dead), Yahoo Music Unlimited (dead), Rhapsody, MOG (dead), Beats Music (walking dead; marked for organ donation to iTunes**), Spotify, and now the ludicrously named, occasionally frustrating, but very nicely featured Google Play Music All Access.


                    *The album art storage does present storage issues on mobiles -- I can't use the service on my phone because the album art [it takes up as much as 400 MB on my tablet! That's just image files, not music!] is stored in internal memory -- not SD -- although their music file DLs are stored to SD if you have it; but Google has a thing about SD storage; they don't like it and won't let their apps load into it; a cynic might suggest they're trying to sell devices; my cheapo LG phone has a 32 GB SD in it and all the apps I put on it work great, so this annoys me. If I actually ever went anywhere, it might even be an issue.

                    ** What ties those four dead/dying services together? The fact that the first three were under the control of Beat's Music CEO Ian Rogers when they were put in the ground. Soon, you'll be able to add the woefully misbegotten Beats Music to that stack of bodies.
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                    • #11
                      Except for about 60 LP's that got stolen from me when I was a High School Senior, I still have every LP I ever bought. Started replacing them with CD's a couple of years after CD's came out. Still have all the cd's. Then started replacing the missing with MP3's. Don't wanna give up any of it. But if I had to choose....I'm 62, records are heavy...It would be CD's I reckon.
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                      • #12
                        Personally, I like the sound of LPs better. Neither format gives you a faithful reproduction. It's a matter of which kind of distortion sounds better to you.

                        However, I'd pick CD. It's more convenient, takes up less room on the shelf, capable of recording entire symphonies without flipping the LP between the 2nd and 3rd movement (or James Brown's "I Lost Someone" from the 1962 Apollo album without a fade out - flip - fade in), and less degradation with wear (although you have to watch for those CD pits).

                        I have thousands of LPs and CDs and I tend to listen to the CDs the most.

                        Funny thing about tone, we all hear it differently, perhaps the frequency response of our ears???? (just a wild uneducated guess).

                        When I went to CDs, I brought a vinyl and CD copy of the album "Focus" by Stan Getz and brought both. I wanted to compare CD decks to see which one sounded closer to the LP.

                        The salesman (a musician) and I could hear the difference in saxophone tone, the store owner (an audiophile) could not. On the other hand, the owner could hear the placement in the stereo field better on all the CDs we tried than either the salesman or myself.

                        I've heard Stan in person, and his tone is definitely closer to the LP than the CD. The CD puts an edge on it that makes him sound a little closer to the sound of Zoot Sims. But then with the LP you have those clicks and pops that are definitely distracting (although they weren't in their day).

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                        • #13
                          CDs

                          I keep thinking back to when I had my collection of vinyl LPs, how playing an LP was an event. Taking the sleeve out of the cover, removing the LP from the sleeve, placing it on the turntable, cleaning it, headphones on, needle down, go 'there' for 40 minutes or so

                          But there must have been a reason why I sold all of my LPs. CDs are eminently portable, easily stored, and playable in the car. No contest, really

                          LP liner notes > CD liner notes, though
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                          • #14
                            I had hundreds of LPs that I eventually replaced with hundreds of CDs. I hated the pops, clicks, warps, distortion and eventual frequency degradation of vinyl. Also the lack of portability and the fragile nature of vinyl. I'll take CDs any day over vinyl, not that I buy CDs anymore either.

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                            • #15
                              Portability is definitely a must for me.
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