Members noisebloom Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 I've always liked JV. He and his brother are apples and oranges, of course. Stevie was the light that burned twice as bright, and Jimmie is the low, steady flame. Stevie was a natural lead player, Jimmie a natural rhythm player. Regarding the guitar itself, I got to play a JV Strat once. It felt right at home in my hands, and it had a natural growl to it that I've never heard in another out-of-the-box Strat. It's really a little stroke of genius, and I'd love to own one sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bjcarl Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 The JV strat's awesome in that it manages to pack a lot of heat in 3 single coils, while still maintaining the unmistakable Stratocaster tone...I almost prefer it to my Robert Cray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BluesBrother Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 [YOUTUBE]T6ZYx88j4R8[/YOUTUBE] I think the old bald dude playing the solos should have his own strat as well! The JV is a great guitar, pickguard is correct for the date, one ply 8 screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tank Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Actually, SRV loaned his '61 Strat("Number One" or his "First Wife") to Fender shortly before his death in 1990. Even though the first custom shop SRV strat didn't debut until '92, a deal had already been inked. I'm guessing that the more recent re-issues are based on the original specs acquired in '89 or '90, and also on the original custom shop model...That being said, you may be correct in that JV may have had some control over the use of his brother's name in marketing and producing the new models... According to the book Caught In The Crossfire SRV got to see the first SRV sig Strat and played it on the Tonight Show a few weeks before his death. As best as I remember, JV does indeed overlook SRV's estate and greenlights anything to do with his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Here's another good one of Jimmy. His rhythm playing is tasty and he plays some nice licks at the end. [YOUTUBE]HvWImh5WHHo[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bjcarl Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 besides-if BB King thinks he's good enough to share a stage with him-what difference does it really make what any of us thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blazingblake Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Jimmy is a fine player doesn't choose to be the guitar hero type, give SRV Live at Carnegie Hall a listen without Jimmie it wouldn't nearly as good as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alecto Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Jimmie Vaughan was famous well before SRV started getting going. Up until the Montreaux Jazz Festival, Let's Dance and Texas Flood, Jimmie was the better-known of the two Vaughan brothers. There's a damn good reason for that: he's an incredibly tasty and tasteful player. Don't believe me? How about these guys? Eric Clapton: "The first time I heard Jimmie Vaughan, I was impressed with the raw power of his sound. His style is unique, and if I've learned anything from him, it's to keep it simple." Buddy Guy: "He's unbeatable when it comes to the blues. He just plays it like it's supposed to be played." Stevie Ray Vaughan: "I play probably 80 percent of what I can play. Jimmie plays one percent of what he knows. He can play anything." I've never tried a JV Strat, but I've heard many good things about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 of course his sig guitar is a MIM model... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geeter Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 I heard JV before I ever heard of SRV. His playing stood out. He had a distinct sound. I can hear Jimmy in Stevie's playing. People around here can be so dismissive of other folks talents. It's depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Very true statement Geeter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 [YOUTUBE]WxBx0nfRp9s&feature=related[/YOUTUBE][YOUTUBE]wAno6opLXe0&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edward Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 So, what this basically boils down to is the same old, sameold bull{censored} of "I do(n't) think this player is good enough to deserve a sig model." {censored} that bull{censored}. Fender wouldn't give a flying {censored} if he'd just finished 'play in a day' and ould only manage three chords..... The only reason anyone ever is "honoured" with a sig model is simply because fender - or for that matter ANY instrument brand - believes that a guitar with that person's name on it will sell more units than one witout. END OF THREAD. FWIW, I'm utterly indifferent one way or the other, couldn't name any of this guy's songs, but had Fender made a lefty version I'd have bought one of those Strats like a shot cause they're a great guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Finch88 Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well apparently Jimmie actually used to be pretty decent back in the day. Before now I never heard anything from The Fabulous Thunderbirds, and I can dig it. Everything else I've heard just plain turns to garbage when he gets a solo. Good rhythm player in all aspects I'd say, but a lead player (at least later in his career) he is not. I mean yeah, his way of playing now is more pure to blues in a text book sense by having ultimate simplicity, but he has no feeling. It's like some of these folks that don't do anything but rip scales and do ridiculous sweeps, except nothing Jimmy does is actually technical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JilaX^ Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well apparently Jimmie actually used to be pretty decent back in the day. Before now I never heard anything from The Fabulous Thunderbirds, and I can dig it. Everything else I've heard just plain turns to garbage when he gets a solo. Good rhythm player in all aspects I'd say, but a lead player (at least later in his career) he is not. I mean yeah, his way of playing now is more pure to blues in a text book sense by having ultimate simplicity, but he has no feeling. It's like some of these folks that don't do anything but rip scales and do ridiculous sweeps, except nothing Jimmy does is actually technical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I love JV. He's got soul and taste and he can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted March 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2009 He's one of the very best white blues players ever.Rhythm and lead. The only people below him I can think of are maybe Francis Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted March 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2009 of course his sig guitar is a MIM model... It's also little more than a modded Classic 50s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 never cared for his playing myself, but the high esteem that many hold him in is enough to justify a signature model. Remember, sigs are about making money, not a badge of honour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JilaX^ Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 The only people below him I can think of are maybe Francis Rossi And what of his catalogue have you listened to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted March 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2009 And what of his catalogue have you listened to? I'm more interested in your comment of him being just about the best white blues player.........who do you put below him? As a lead player, he's pretty good, but nothing special, but as a rhythm player he's very good, and imo better than Rossi, which in itself is some accolade, and puts him up with people like Malcolm Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JilaX^ Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 I'm more interested in your comment of him being just about the best white blues player.........who do you put below him?As a lead player, he's pretty good, but nothing special, but as a rhythm player he's very good, and imo better than Rossi, which in itself is some accolade, and puts him up with people like Malcolm Young. I put him right up there with the very best. Johnny Winter, 3xKings, Jeff Beck, Johnny Guitar Watson, Albert Collins etc. Rhythm, it's quite hard to compare him with folks like Malcom Young, because of the difference in genres. They both excel at different fields, etc. (I don't think I've heard Malcom play a regular blues backing type of thing before.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted March 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2009 I put him right up there with the very best. Johnny Winter, 3xKings, Jeff Beck, Johnny Guitar Watson, Albert Collins etc. Jeff Beck? Vaughan isn't even close and apart from the fact that AC isn't white or wasn't the last time I looked is pretty key. But I'm still looking at who you'd rank below him, and how do you rate? By ear, heart, technique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeanoBoy Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 I remember reading a Robin Trower interview many years before SRV was on the scene. While on tour he saw a young Jimmy Vaughn in a club in Texas. Robin raved about him. I don't know if he changed his style or what, but Jimmy always has had a great reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JilaX^ Posted March 16, 2009 Members Share Posted March 16, 2009 Jeff Beck? Vaughan isn't even close and apart from the fact that AC isn't white or wasn't the last time I looked is pretty key. But I'm still looking at who you'd rank below him, and how do you rate? By ear, heart, technique? Forgot about the white thing. most of the guys I mentioned aren't even white @ self. To me, technique means jack {censored}. (At least when it comes to blues) Look at guys like Hound Dog Taylor, like he said about himself "When he's dead, they gonna say: 'He couldn't play for {censored}, but he still made it sound good!'" So I mainly go by ear and feel. Below him, of the great white players? Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray, Gary Moore, etc. I must admit I'm not a great fan of ranking guitar players, as when they get to a certain level they're all just as good. But with unique styles and preferences. Of which some hit you more than others. [YOUTUBE]VNpUmlTc_mI[/YOUTUBE] Another great Jimmie video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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