Nijyo is saying there is no difference between 14 and 12 by basing his argument on the onset of puberty, whether he knows he's said that or not doesn't matter. There is a huge difference between the onset of puberty and the middle-end.
I'm talking about older men with younger girls, which is how the conversation started in the first place. Sex between two 15-year-olds is not a crime in most places, even though we still have moral and emotional issues to consider.
But, where do you draw the line? I agree someone in their late twenties or older, is rather wrong. But, where do you draw the line?
Nijyo won't go to 12 or 13, even though I've pointed out that girls can reach puberty as young as 11. His argument has been countered, but he has no answer for it.
His argument is still about the onset of puberty, but I've clearly shot it down. He's ignoring it. That's not logical debate.
You haven't shot it down at all...
And it's an adult's responsibility to know if a girl is legally able to consent. You can whine about it all you want, but it's not a legal defense to say she looked old enough or
she didn't resist. Most importantly if you know that you are taking advantage of a woman of any age, it's indefensible. Like I said, if she's of legal age, and can consent in every other way... meaning you haven't drugged her, well then {censored} like the wind... you have my blessing.
In the original case the girl looked old enough and was the one making the moves on him, miles away from "Didn't resist". What do you expect, that one should I.D every girl who hits on him? The notion that a girl can't consent simply because the guy is a few years older than her, is ridiculous.