Members Acadiafall Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 So they wanted $500 dollars for a fake!!!!! You can get a decent 'name' guitar for that price. I wouldnt pay $50 for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brewski Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 this is just not a good fake - the headstrock looks kinda sketchy. I'd pay $150.00 for it though and stick the thing on stage behind my Agiles was at a second hand pawn shop and stumbled across this for $500(AUD) and got really excited. picked it up and had a play and it sounded cool. got the serial number down and thought i stumbled across a bargain pics then i looked around and saw 2 more "gibsons"...lespauls...for $500 AUD thats when i thought...hmmm? somethings not right here. i picked them up and they were heavey as well but ive not an expert at iding they even put gibson stickers on the pickups. if they arent fake...damn someone please assure me that they are fake. ive read about the chinese copies on ebay but never seen one in AUS before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 good god, those are horribly obvious fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 i'm visiting perth in december... if they're still there i'll go in and give 'em hell... that's what i think you should do and i wouldn't just accept that answer from the lazy cops either damn i hate cash converters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members freeridstylee Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 That's not a fake gibson, it's a real Gibsun. Come on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HanSolo Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Damn..That first one looks mutated as {censored}! The first one is a Jay Turser. I had one that I bought off ebay. Seller diguised the "jackrabbit ears" in his photos by the angle of the camera. I thought I was getting a nice 335 copy in Cherry sunburst. I pulled it out of the box and thought WTF???? They're fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 That first one looks like an Artcore. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dougie.Douglas Posted July 24, 2009 Members Share Posted July 24, 2009 Looks like you have an authentic Gibsun there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_bleeding Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 The shopkeeper is committing a crime. S/he could and should be charged.not in australia plus they probably dont know, so they wont get charged even if it was a crime. :facepalm:waste of time and taxpayer money. Gibson has enough money as it is, espeically with the amount of {censored} they're slewing everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_bleeding Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Looks like you have an authentic Gibsun there look at the top left cornerhttp://www2.gibson.com/Gibson.aspx:cop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Annoying Twit Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 not in australia Yes they are: http://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/issues/Article.ashx?g=4eb04f23-5031-4af8-b761-4bc444475984 plus they probably dont know, so they wont get charged even if it was a crime. Actually the laws allow them to be charged even if they don't know, if they haven't been sufficiently vigilant. :facepalm: waste of time and taxpayer money. Gibson has enough money as it is, espeically with the amount of {censored} they're slewing everywhere. Gibson is a large company, so this excuses counterfeiting of their goods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Runn3r Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Yes they are: http://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/issues/Article.ashx?g=4eb04f23-5031-4af8-b761-4bc444475984Actually the laws allow them to be charged even if they don't know, if they haven't been sufficiently vigilant. Gibson is a large company, so this excuses counterfeiting of their goods? from your article above: Preventive measures/strategies The practical realities of business resourcesand the potential expense and time involvedin litigating a matter will inevitably militateagainst issuing court proceedings in everycase, particularly over small quantities ofinfringing goods. Non-court preventive measures thattrademark owners can employ include: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johansolo Posted July 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 How could anyone who has ever seen a 335 look at this and not know it's fake? i didnt know it was a fake...at first glance...but i must admit...ive never really paid any close attention to gibson guitars. my wife has 2 epiphones but im more into my PRS/Fender's when i saw the price tag thats when i started getting excited...but when i saw there were 2 other "les pauls" i got dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Annoying Twit Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 the article invites all trademnark owners to front up with some $$$ to the proper channels if a solution to this issue is to be at handhas Gibson done this? Given that I complain to Gibson (Europe) about counterfeit auctions, I get the "our team is working on it" email, and nothing seems to happen (auction completes without being pulled), it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't. But I still don't think this excuses the local police refusing to investigate counterfeits being sold in a shop. And certainly not them saying that it was legal to sell counterfeit guitars. Aren't trademark holders expected to defend their trademarks or risk losing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 i love australia. What do you expect from a penal colony gone wrong? No offense to any Aussies =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Runn3r Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Given that I complain to Gibson (Europe) about counterfeit auctions, I get the "our team is working on it" email, and nothing seems to happen (auction completes without being pulled), it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't. But I still don't think this excuses the local police refusing to investigate counterfeits being sold in a shop. And certainly not them saying that it was legal to sell counterfeit guitars.Aren't trademark holders expected to defend their trademarks or risk losing them? tht is the trademark theory indeed typically not on the list of duties of typical/local police though unless they have been specified to do so via an engagement by said trademark holder through various means most of which requires additional expense on the trademark holder's part ...the local police arnt typically enforcement agents for the trademarks of private corporations ...afaik ...unless specific action has been taken by holder against a specific entity/person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mdintx Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 It's more of a hypothetical question now. ~2-3 years ago, I went to a small shop that had some fake Gibson Les Pauls. They had them marked as fake, priced accordingly, were quick to tell you they weren't the real thing, and shared a pro/con assessment of the guitar. I seem to recall that it was a consignment sale. Is that something that would be reportable? Would you report it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 What do you expect from a penal colony gone wrong?No offense to any Aussies =) agreed... bunch of bloody criminals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 waste of time and taxpayer money. Gibson has enough money as it is, espeically with the amount of {censored} they're slewing everywhere. that's not the damn point... it's more about the poor sucker that buys the fake and gets ripped off than it is about a large company losing a few bucks... although that's not completely irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarist_with_ Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 It's like me buying a dozen caged eggs that are labelled as organic free range. The least that needs to happen is for the store to be notified so they can label any fakes asap.I'm also happy to disclose that I'm a descendent of free irish settlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 how would i report them?as i am in perth western australiaand the shop is a second hand/hock shop (called cash convertors...the have outlets state wide that buy/sell second hand goods)someones probably done a shifty on the actual store or the store knows they are fakes and are selling thme cheap?or should i just go back to the store and yell and point "FAKE" to the manager? GCS will forward to the legal dept. Gibson Customer Service 1-800-4GIBSON service@gibson.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 It's like me buying a dozen caged eggs that are labelled as organic free range. The least that needs to happen is for the store to be notified so they can label any fakes asap. I'm also happy to disclose that I'm a descendent of free irish settlers i was in north qld a few weeks back... port douglas.... hitting the beach in the middle of winter rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarist_with_ Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 i was in north qld a few weeks back... port douglas.... hitting the beach in the middle of winter rocks Obviously you're on tour with P!nk then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Obviously you're in tour with P!nk then? naa... live in melbourne currently... via sydney and brisbane....saw her at a bar in port though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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