Members rickoshea Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 well its birthday time again soon. This generally means either a guitar or tools for me, despite my wife trying her best to dress me using strange things called "clothes" as presents in past years. This year I have a dilemma - so, opinions please on these : http://www.imuso.co.uk/Acoustic-Guitars/18289-/Recording-King-RM-998-1D-Bell-Brass-Diamond-Cut-Resonator-Guitar?utm_source=googleproduct or http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=RASI or possibly http://www.axminster.co.uk/apollo-apollo-spraymaster-1200-2s-prod792035/ the agony of choice eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fastblueheeler Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 Rancilio Silvia V3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gitnoob Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 So the espresso maker is for neck resets? Get it! I recently tried to do a neck reset without one, and it would have been a better idea to have it available. Plus, I hear you can make coffee with them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knockwood Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 The reso is basically the "all three" selection. Because (A) if you buy the reso, you will buy tools and spray equipment anyway - I'm convinced that once tool-buying starts, there is no stopping it, nor blocking it with purchases of other things. And (2) on any upcoming holiday or birthday, you can buy that fantastic-looking espresso maker as a gift *for your wife,* or perhaps for the children... What a considerate gift for the family!!! Also (D) if you buy the espresso gadget first, you'll be too hyper to play the reso and you may inadvertently encase your pecker permanently in a mad caffeine-driven spray of nitrocellulose lacquer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garthman Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 You need to ask!!!!!! Coffee, mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members panhandler Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 The RK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tony Burns Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 Depends- if the sprayer makes you money -get that and with the money buy the resonator - my tools make me money ( most tools should work for a living and make money for you ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stackabones Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 Reso, and get a Bialetti Moka instead of the blingy Mr Coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 You need to ask!!!!!! Coffee, mate! +100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickoshea Posted May 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 we seem to be swaying in the direction of the Rancilio ... of course I'd need a good grinder as well The arguments against are indeed well put. Caffeine driven hazes Knock can be beneficial. I firmly believe that with an adequate amount of Rancilio produced espresso/latte my guitar building would approach monumental levels of efficiency and I could churn out at least 50 guitar-shaped firelighters a day. This would enable me to buy the reso. I have also cunningly encased my pecker in dental silicon putty as a first line of defence against flying go bars so it is comparatively safe. Garthy - judging by the amount of exclamation marks and smileys in your post, you already have a Rancilio and have been partaking in several Samson-strength brews before you wrote it :poke: Gitnoob ... never thought of it that way. I like your lateral thinking there Stack ... the Bialetti is a fine bit of kit for espressos. However ... you cant do this with it : http://coffeegeek.com/guides/frothingguide/examples and that, as well as being fun, makes seriously good coffee or maybe I should get some clothes ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Michael Martin Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 I'll take door number 1. If Paris is like Rome, where I currently llve, all the best espresso is made by experts in espresso bars. Which by the way are wonderful places in their own right (I just now returned from my favorite, the Bar del Cappucino on Via Arenula, where I got my morning fix). Also, I've owned two diff espresso machines, and not cheapies. Neither one lasted more than a year before some part of it stopped working. NEVER pass up a chance to acquire a gorgeous guitar! Especially a shiny one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greymuzzle Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 If, laudably, you decide to go the coffee route, don't forget to budget for a decent grinder. I had a machine here for a while before I got a decent grinder and the difference really is major. Properly GROUND beans with a good control over consistencies for espresso or cafetiere etc make a far better job. Imho the little bladed whirring jobbies just aren't up to it. ... and then stock up on my Aged Sulawesi Kalosi for those vital breakfast fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garthman Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 . . Garthy - judging by the amount of exclamation marks and smileys in your post, you already have a Rancilio and have been partaking in several Samson-strength brews before you wrote it :poke: . . . You may laugh, Ricky boy, but lots of good coffee is the essential ingredient to good guitar playing - or lots of alcohol, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gurutoo Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hands down easy peasy----> RK Resonator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kwakatak Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 Sounds like the coffee machine is in the lead. It can be quite versatile as has been mentioned. You can use it to steam out some tricky neck joints. It doesn't hurt to use it for its intended purpose but personally I get annoyed by "the shakes" from having too much caffeine. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickoshea Posted June 2, 2011 Author Members Share Posted June 2, 2011 Grey .. yup, a burr grinder is vital. When I lived in the USA I bought beans that were roasted to order from a company in NYC. I was in a permanent state of involuntary trembling for 2 years. Great stuff Michael ... very very true. Also, if coffee costs the same in Rome than it does in Paris having a bash at your own espressos/lattes etc isn't a bad plan Garthy ... so thats why you play so well. A caffeine/alcohol mix. I feel some experimentation coming on. Sound clips to follow ... (maybe) Neil ... the shakes make my day job fun (for me) the Rancilio is in the lead by a head but the reso may pull off a last minute win. I'm a bit of an indecisive bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garthman Posted June 2, 2011 Members Share Posted June 2, 2011 . . . the Rancilio is in the lead by a head but the reso may pull off a last minute win. I'm a bit of an indecisive bastard. I'd go: + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terry Allan Hall Posted June 2, 2011 Members Share Posted June 2, 2011 Get the guit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted June 2, 2011 Members Share Posted June 2, 2011 If you are serious about the reso, lets talk. There might be better options. 'noob is right, the best use of a home espresso maker is for neck resetting. I've gone back to a drip machine and grinder. The sprayer is also a good choice, but again, there are cheaper options. I gave 20 bucks for a 3hp 8 gal used compressor and about 30 for a little detail gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members masterbuilt Posted June 2, 2011 Members Share Posted June 2, 2011 My wife bought a Pavoni Duet which has a grinder on it, does espresso, has a built-in steamer, etc... all the bells and whistles, about $400 USD. She hardly uses it these days, but at first, she was pulling shots left and right. I'd get the git. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickoshea Posted June 3, 2011 Author Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 If you are serious about the reso, lets talk. There might be better options. 'noob is right, the best use of a home espresso maker is for neck resetting. I've gone back to a drip machine and grinder. The sprayer is also a good choice, but again, there are cheaper options. I gave 20 bucks for a 3hp 8 gal used compressor and about 30 for a little detail gun. whats the options FK? ... I'm after a metal body and none of this lap dancing play technique flat fretboard stuff FK and Masterbuilt - I like proper espresso machines, I had one in the US and used it all the time. The only snag was that it took me so long to piss about doing latte art that if 4 people wanted coffee it was a crisis. Neal ... just a wee touch out of my price range, if I spent that I wouldnt live to see any more birthdays Owing to TAH and Garthy's wisdom (? ) the Resonator pulls back to a slight lead with only a few days to go .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greymuzzle Posted June 3, 2011 Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 OK. My final words on this, after profound consideration. Coffee is good. Very good. But there are other ways to achieve decent coffee e.g. good beans, grinder, cafetiere. BUT There is no other way to achieve the joyful mournful sound of a 'steel' reso. For that I went with Busker and am happy I did. If you decide to go the coffee route and need supplies of anything specific I'll be in the Mecca coffee emporium at the end of the month. They even have an organic Indonesian water treated decaff. which is genuinely very drinkable at bedtime! Wowzie! steel steel steeel steel steel steeel steel steel steeeeeeeeel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted June 3, 2011 Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 whats the options FK? ... I'm after a metal body and none of this lap dancing play technique flat fretboard stuff The first thing I always ask someone who wants a resonator is how they plan to play it. That leads first to the body and cone style (metal vs wood, biscuit vs spider vs tri cone). Lap dancing, er, style, pretty much dictates spider bridge, others styles of playing make sense on a metal bodied biscuit. Next consideration, and the biggie for me, is that many PacRim resonators, particularly those with 14 frets clear, are fairly narrow necks with quite a bit of radius (usually 16 inch). That is fine for fretted play, but I play about 80 percent slide on my reso's and a wider flatter neck is much easier to play cleanly on. This is one spec that I would really want to check out - ideally by playing, if you can't at least read the specs. Last, I've only played two RK's (one a couple of years ago, one about two weeks ago). My feeling, like most PacRim resos, is that they were fine but could use some work - you are capable of doing that. They were just not as nicely setup as you would expect a guitar in the $500 price range and the tricone, at least wasn't quite as sweet sounding as I would have expected. In the US, Republic has made a good reputation in taking PacRim reso bodies and setting them up better, Beard does that with their GoldTone line and Dobro with the Hound Dog (both the latter are spiders). On your side of the pond I have heard good things about both Michael Messer and Busker guitars, and I was particularly impressed by the Delta Resonators made in GB (their woodie tri cone was part of the inspiration for mine). http://www.deltaresonatorguitars.co.uk/models.htm Here was a discussion on a blues forum about some of the options, my feeling is that there is a lot of variations and options in reso-land and that you should check them all out. http://bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12026 (Btw - the last VOM had clips of my three resonators playing the same song, including a little lap dancing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickoshea Posted June 3, 2011 Author Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 Grey ... is that coffee Emporium back "home" in Norn Iron?, I'm off to Donegal hopefully in a few weeks to scare some Salmon but may have a day to spare, hell maybe this time Avalon will be open I would go with Busker (this one : http://www.buskerguitars.co.uk/8.html ) but .. and this leads to FK's question, I'm not going to be using it mainly for slidey stuff. My inspiration for one comes from this : o7GJgncybV8&feature=related so its going to be picked and strummed, but I'll be experimenting 2 things bout the Busker that concern me ... flat wide fretboard, and the price. I'm pushing it as it is I actually prefer a narrower neck FK but any further advice is appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greymuzzle Posted June 3, 2011 Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 Monsewer O'Shea, The "Mecca" is in Aberwristwatch in Welsh Wales. Not an expected location, but maybe 'cos it's a Uni. town. Does nowt but teas, coffees and accoutrements. I'm there fairly reg. and always do a wee bit of stocking up. No problem at all if there's something you're pining for... You just think that you'll use a reso for pickin' and strummin'; but I know the dark slide is strong in you lol Be happy, whatever your decision ( in so far that it really is yours) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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