Phil O'Keefe Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I saw this on Reverb and thought it was a pretty interesting read. Hope some of you enjoy it too. https://reverb.com/blog/the-true-story-of-the-time-traveling-gibson-in-back-to-the-future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Emory Posted October 24, 2015 Members Share Posted October 24, 2015 My "like" doesn't work, says I don't have permission. Nice story. Made me think of Dewey Cox: Walk Hard. As far as I know all the gits were period correct & pretty darn nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted October 24, 2015 Members Share Posted October 24, 2015 Cool, definitely a holy grail guitar in my mind. And even though it wasn't period correct, it certainly fits the scene better IMO. Can't remember if the bigsby got used but it should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted October 25, 2015 Members Share Posted October 25, 2015 Great story. I especially like the part about unlimiited budgets. Now we know a little bit about why movies cost so much to make: No one gives a crap. I'm a science fiction fan and I've been told by a professional editor at a convention that continuity is for hacks. For example, if one movie says Capt. Kirk met Spock at Starfleet Academy when they were both cadets and another says they met when he took command of the Enterprise that's okay as long as you tell a good story. Personally, I think part of telling a "good story" is getting things right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tvvoodoo Posted October 27, 2015 Members Share Posted October 27, 2015 funny how whenever I bring out my cherry red 335 dot out, my family calls it my back to the future guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted October 27, 2015 Members Share Posted October 27, 2015 Great story. I especially like the part about unlimiited budgets. Now we know a little bit about why movies cost so much to make: No one gives a crap. I'm a science fiction fan and I've been told by a professional editor at a convention that continuity is for hacks. For example' date=' if one movie says Capt. Kirk met Spock at Starfleet Academy when they were both cadets and another says they met when he took command of the Enterprise that's okay as long as you tell a good story. Personally, I think part of telling a "good story" is getting things right.[/quote'] Nothing is wasted except the consumer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted October 27, 2015 Members Share Posted October 27, 2015 Great story. I especially like the part about unlimiited budgets. Now we know a little bit about why movies cost so much to make: No one gives a crap. I'm a science fiction fan and I've been told by a professional editor at a convention that continuity is for hacks. For example' date=' if one movie says Capt. Kirk met Spock at Starfleet Academy when they were both cadets and another says they met when he took command of the Enterprise that's okay as long as you tell a good story. Personally, I think part of telling a "good story" is getting things right.[/quote'] I think there is a difference. And continuity depends on the fiction. In a case like star trek is most certainly important and should be paid attention too. If you don't you risk changing the entire vision of the creator. Which is why in my opinion, anyway....the new star trek movies are complete garbage. They simply fly in the face of everything Roddenberry was about. In other cases it's obvious the writer/director doesn't care and is asking the view to suspend belief. The quality of the story will determine if that is a realistic request or just a stupid movie. In terms of the guitar issue in back to the future......doesn't bother me a bit. It's completely irrelevant to the story line and is only something guitar dorks would care about. It's not even really continuity. More just a dating mistake. But since the writers knew that....it's not even a dating mistake. It's simply an artistic visual choice taking precedent over historical accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted October 27, 2015 Members Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think there is a difference. And continuity depends on the fiction. In a case like star trek is most certainly important and should be paid attention too. . . . . . . In other cases it's obvious the writer/director doesn't care and is asking the view to suspend belief. The quality of the story will determine if that is a realistic request or just a stupid movie. . . . . . . It's simply an artistic visual choice taking precedent over historical accuracy. I respectfully disagree. Either you get it right or you don't. It's known that Abraham Lincoln was tall. You couldn't have him played on screen by a dwarf. I do agree that the new Trek movies are pretty bad because they're all bang bang shoot 'em up whereas the original was about something. Each episode had a point to make. George Takei once said the new movies had no business being called "Star Trek." I can suspend belief with the best of them when it comes to fictional stuff like time travel but I have a harder time when facts are involved. There's a murder mystery novel set in a science fiction convention and the guest of honor writes a series of books about a Conan wannabe called Tratyn Runewind. Fans have made up all manner of explanations as to why Runewind's horse changed color or the length of his sword kept changing. The real answer, according to the book, was "apathy and Chivas Regal." Same goes for Back to the Future. If someone is playing a guitar in 1955, it needs to be a guitar that existed in 1955. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AJ6stringsting Posted October 28, 2015 Members Share Posted October 28, 2015 Don't get me going on Star Trek ... I hope JJ Abrams goes to hell for killing off Vulcan on the new movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AJ6stringsting Posted October 28, 2015 Members Share Posted October 28, 2015 They should have gone with a Fender Stratocaster with a traditional vibrato system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 They should have gone with a Fender Stratocaster with a traditional vibrato system. That reminds me of the Buddy Holly Story - you know, where all the guitars are from the 70s and not the 50s. They even show him playing a late 60s / early 70s era Fender Bronco - a model that didn't even exist when Buddy was alive. It wasn't a case of "being close" or taking "artistic license" - it's like they didn't know, or if they did, they just didn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tom Mc1 Posted November 2, 2015 Members Share Posted November 2, 2015 If they really wanted a guitar that would have looked futuristic from the 50's maybe they should have picked a Gibson Flying V also released in 1958. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 If they really wanted a guitar that would have looked futuristic from the 50's maybe they should have picked a Gibson Flying V also released in 1958. That might have been stretching it a bit too much. While I do agree that those are great "futuristic" guitar designs that were way ahead of their time when they were released in the late 50s, the movie was set in 1955; it might be hard to pass those off to the average viewer as mid-50s era guitars. IMHO, the ES 345 looks more like it belongs to that era, even if it wasn't actually released until three years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted November 3, 2015 Members Share Posted November 3, 2015 That might have been stretching it a bit too much. While I do agree that those are great "futuristic" guitar designs that were way ahead of their time when they were released in the late 50s, the movie was set in 1955; it might be hard to pass those off to the average viewer as mid-50s era guitars. IMHO, the ES 345 looks more like it belongs to that era, even if it wasn't actually released until three years later. I agree. Especially with the chuck berry reference. Most associate him, and that type of music, with a cherry ES345 type guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted November 5, 2015 Members Share Posted November 5, 2015 That reminds me of the Buddy Holly Story - you know, where all the guitars are from the 70s and not the 50s. They even show him playing a late 60s / early 70s era Fender Bronco - a model that didn't even exist when Buddy was alive. It wasn't a case of "being close" or taking "artistic license" - it's like they didn't know, or if they did, they just didn't care. thats just bad, buddy holly from a time where electricguitar and the stratocaster just got invented, plays guitars from 15 years in the future.... haven't seen the movie, if everything else is of the same quality it must have been a really bad movie too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 thats just bad, buddy holly from a time where electricguitar and the stratocaster just got invented, plays guitars from 15 years in the future.... haven't seen the movie, if everything else is of the same quality it must have been a really bad movie too.... Actually Gary Busey did a pretty good job in it IMO and it was generally well reviewed... but there are considerable historical inaccuracies beyond just the guitar issues, so if you're bothered by such things, it may bug you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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