Members marvo Posted September 1, 2009 Members Share Posted September 1, 2009 Anyone do this,what are the results and how do you go about doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hellion_213 Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 The results are that the pup acts as if the tone is at 10 all the time. And depends on the guitar. http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/ Just select your guitar type, and look for the schematic minus tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 YOu could try a no load pot. 0 to 9 is standard pot operation. Clicked at 10 and it removes itself from the circuit. Works great IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 The result is a bright and loud sound if you bypass the tone pot. It could be overkill or it might sound perfect....depends a lot on the pup. When I swapped the pups on my Parker Nitefly, I had little bit of trouble balancing the sound between the 2 strat style pups and the HB sized P90 in the bridge. Finally, I hooked the guitars one-and-only tone knob to the 2 strat style pups and bypassed the tone knob going to the bridge pup. This did the trick and the guitar works great this way! It's pretty easy to bypass the tone knob or knobs for one or more pickups. This is sometimes a cheap fix for a muddy pup or a murky set of pups. The tone knob usually gets wired up to the 5-way switch an a strat-style guitar. There are great wiring diagrams on Seymour Duncan's website if you need a visual aide. P.S. If you just want to brighten the sound, a potentiometer swap may be a better solution. If the guitar has 250K pots, a swap to 500K pots will result in a much brighter sound which you can dial back to taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 I would never do it personally, even though it is very simple. It would render the guitar useless for my needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metalheadUK Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 YOu could try a no load pot. 0 to 9 is standard pot operation. Clicked at 10 and it removes itself from the circuit. Works great IMO. I've got this on my Gordon Smith and AS Tele. It's great...it's like Nigel Tuffnells Marshall...it goes to 11! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 I've got this on my Gordon Smith and AS Tele. It's great...it's like Nigel Tuffnells Marshall...it goes to 11! I have one on my strat. It actually cops some believable tele tones on full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_bleeding Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 i like it better with no tone pot. sounds not only brighter liek your tone pot is around 11, but thicker as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RJpilot Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 YOu could try a no load pot. 0 to 9 is standard pot operation. Clicked at 10 and it removes itself from the circuit. Works great IMO. What is this "no load pot" you speak of? Oh I see you have described it quite well in your post... I must find...Something like that might just be the only thing I can afford after my unfortunate trip to the dentist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 My Godin LG-SP90 has had that mod done (among others, before I got it), and it sounds just dandy. I'm thinking about further modding it so that each pot controls the volume of one pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 One of my "go to" Strats has no tone pot. The other Strats that I've modded either don't have one or have a home made no-load pot as their tone pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 What is this "no load pot" you speak of? Oh I see you have described it quite well in your post... I must find...Something like that might just be the only thing I can afford after my unfortunate trip to the dentist. You can find them here in both split and solid shaft. A little pricey but they are nice pots. http://guitarpartsresource.com/electrical_fenderpots.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigGreen Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 I have all my "Metal" guitars set up this way as I dont have a need for tone knobs. When I had them engaged I just kept them on 10 anyways. The problem was I would be rockin out onstage and accidentally turn down the tone by accident meaning for the volume, then start the next song with tone off. I had them removed and just wired straight to the pickups. Also, it sounds "hotter" to me, just my opinion. I've read that big Metal guys, ex. Glenn Tipton of Judas priest, wire on/off switches right to the pickups on certain guitars for just balls out or off. No volume or tone. I also play in a cleaner jazzier band where i rely on my starts tone knobs constantly to blend my guitar into the mix. "More than one way round the mote" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 You just unsolder the hot wire that goes to the tone control. You get a little more gain with some more brightness. Sometimes the results are too shrill. Sometimes it sounds better. I guess the results can be 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blazingblake Posted September 2, 2009 Members Share Posted September 2, 2009 EVH did for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty Belle Posted September 3, 2009 Members Share Posted September 3, 2009 To bypass any tone pot just take the wire from your pup selector switch to lug 3 of the volume pot, then connect lug 2 of the pot to the output jack and make sure (which is standard anyways and will already be done if you're not using new pots) lug 1 is grounded to the pot casing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marvo Posted September 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 3, 2009 Thanks to all for the input,I am thinking of doing this to my musicman sub 1 guitar, it only has one p/u in the bridge, it is kinda bright though, also thinking of changing the p/u to a dimarzio s/d,I notice the axis guitars have only a vol pot, no tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jjblacksheep Posted September 3, 2009 Members Share Posted September 3, 2009 I actually soldered my cap back yesterday. After trying it for weeks it was too shrill for my use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted September 3, 2009 Members Share Posted September 3, 2009 You can take a pot appart and cut through the carbon at the 10 position. This effectively removes the pot from the circuit when the wiper is above that point, this is all a no load pot is. In reality, very littel benifit is gained. If you amp has a trebble knob and you need more just turn it. In the same line of thought though, I dont usually put trebble knobs in my builds. The volumes when turned down usually muffel the tone a bit anyway. I have a few where I use the tone pot with a trebble bleed cap over the volume pot. I can then adjust how much trebble I can bypass and add back into the mix. Its only effective when you have the volume turned down a bit, but I usually run my volume on 7 or 8 anyway and have that littel extra boost for leads. This way when I turn up it gets fuller vs brighter. Works good for recording tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hcprimerib Posted September 3, 2009 Members Share Posted September 3, 2009 I wire most of my guitars without tone pots. active and passive pickups. the only knob you need is the volume...hell, alot of the folks here on HC don't even use the volume pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outtahear Posted September 3, 2009 Members Share Posted September 3, 2009 You can take a pot appart and cut through the carbon at the 10 position. This effectively removes the pot from the circuit when the wiper is above that point, this is all a no load pot is. Or, nail polish on where the wiper meets the carbon track. Takes 10 min, and removable. This pic illustrates the "nail polish mod". By applying some insulation such as clear nail polish in this area of the resistive element track, you create a tone pot that disconnects as you turn it to full on, as you adjust from 9 to 10. Disconnecting the tone pot can help to bring out some extra response and clarity with the higher output pickups such as the Gibson 498T or 500T, Seymour Duncan models Duncan Custom, Duncan Distortion, or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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