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    Looking to improve our live sound so I'd like to know what others are doing here to help in that regard. So here goes:

    1) What brand/model/type of mic are you using to mic your guitar amps?
    2) What type of mic holder do you use?
    3) Where do you position the mic on the amp?
    4) Any other tips that would be helpful?

  • #2
    usually use the cab-voiced line out on mine. I also have a 609. If I use that, it requires no holder and I put it about halfway between the dust cap and the surround.
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    • #3
      I am curious what the rest of the PA is, guitar amps aren't that hard.
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      • #4
        The guitar players in my band use the sennheiser e609 and e906. As tlbonehead mentioned you need no mic stand with these mics.

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        • #5
          Another vote for the Sennheiser e609. It's right in the same price range as SM57, but the sound is noticeably warmer, without that characteristic harsh edge that 57's tend to have.

          And as others have mentioned, the 609's are literally designed so that you can just lay the mic cable over the top of the cabinet with the mic hanging in front of the speaker. No mic stand needed.

          In terms of live situations, just about everyone I've seen aims the mic toward the seam where the dust cap is glued to the cone. Seems pretty universal.

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          • #6
            I use a good ol' SM57 in one channel and a line out on another and blend the two. I mounted a mic plate on the front of the amp and screw a clip to it for the mic. Aim the mic at 45 degrees to the cone, not the voice coil, of the speaker.
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            • #7
              Another Senns 609 drapped over the amp user here.

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              • #8
                And as others have mentioned, the 609's are literally designed so that you can just lay the mic cable over the top of the cabinet with the mic hanging in front of the speaker. No mic stand needed.


                I use the E609 too, my favorite mic for guitar cabs.

                But, there are two issues you have to watch for:

                (1) The cable twisting and the mic rotating so that it's sideways to the cab, and

                (2) Amp cabs with metal grills. The 609 tends to bounce slightly if the amp is loud and you can hear the contact noise.



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                • #9
                  I use the E609 too, my favorite mic for guitar cabs.

                  But, there are two issues you have to watch for:

                  (1) The cable twisting and the mic rotating so that it's sideways to the cab, and

                  (2) Amp cabs with metal grills. The 609 tends to bounce slightly if the amp is loud and you can hear the contact noise.



                  Terry D.


                  it also helps if you have the right side facing the amp.:lol: When my guitar players first got them they actually had them facing the wrong direction the first couple of times they used them:facepalm:

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                  • #10
                    it also helps if you have the right side facing the amp.:lol: When my guitar players first got them they actually had them facing the wrong direction the first couple of times they used them:facepalm:
                    gotta admit, I tapped on mine a couple times the first time I used it just to make sure.
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                    • #11
                      it also helps if you have the right side facing the amp.:lol: When my guitar players first got them they actually had them facing the wrong direction the first couple of times they used them:facepalm:


                      The Royer ribbon mic in that pic actually sounds BETTER if you point the rear at the amp. :freak:

                      Haven't tried that with the 609, though.

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                      • #12
                        Looking to improve our live sound so I'd like to know what others are doing here to help in that regard. So here goes:

                        1) What brand/model/type of mic are you using to mic your guitar amps?
                        2) What type of mic holder do you use?
                        3) Where do you position the mic on the amp?
                        4) Any other tips that would be helpful?


                        #3 is really more important than many people realize. A couple inches difference either way can make a dramatic difference in the sound. A good learning source is youtube, which has a lot of videos where you can hear the differences in sound depending on placement. Some bands look at me funny when I am using my flashlight thru the amp grill looking for the right spot to place the mic, lol. I also factor in what type of guitar is being used when placing the mic. (Single coils are brighter, humbuckers not so much). As to #1, I usually use Sennheiser E609s and drape them over the amp as others have mentioned. I also have a lot of SM57s, and those are fine as well.

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                        • #13
                          And as others have mentioned, the 609's are literally designed so that you can just lay the mic cable over the top of the cabinet with the mic hanging in front of the speaker. No mic stand needed.
                          That actually works OK with an SM57 - we were doing that 30 years ago .

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                          • #14
                            I use a EV N/D478 and I like it a lot.

                            To hold the mic I use an old clamp that is normally used to hold drum mics to the rim of the drum and a piece of metal that I took from an old keyboard stand.
                            I've twisted the metal piece (bar) to fit under the amp head and bend down to the speaker.
                            It's sheap, works great, fast, and easy to carry around.
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                            • #15
                              Most of the better sound guys I work with use the 609 as well. I always have a 57 I carry just in case. I made a small mic holder out of a goose neck and a drum clamp that attaches to most combos and cabs that I carry as well.
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