Members warriorpoet Posted April 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Thanks, that's better. Actually ended up playing the Amaj chordscale over my wife practicing the scale on her bass. Used ma '51. Maybe another hour. Ended up noodling some tired old blues licks. Nobody needs practice more than me. You could try a Dm7 there, too, but you'd loose that cool secondary dominant effect. Did you try an FM9 yet? You could also do a Bm7b5 (7 half-dim.) before the final chord the second time 'round instead of the last G (5) to spice things up a bit. Substitute an Am7 (6-) for C (1) every once in a while, too Original: C-F6-C-F6-C-G-C-G-D-G-C An idea: C/E-F6-C2-FM9-Am7-G-Dm7-Bm7b5-CM7 Another: C2/E-FM9-C/G-F6-CM7/E-G-D7/F#-G7-CM7/G Play around with it a bit to make it fit Rules of thumb: 1. a Major 1 chord can usually be substituted by a 6 minor, and sometimes by a 5 2. a 5 chord can usually be substituted by a 7 half-dim. (m7b5) 3. Major chords can usually be substituted by 6 chords. i.e. F (4) in the key of CM may be substituted by F6. 4. Major 2 chords must resolve to 5 chords, ESPECIALLY when it's a 2dom.7 5. look for good transitional chord voicings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 You're up late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted April 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 You're up late.2 big arranging/ engraving projects, a conducting project and a late-term research paper due in the next few days. I'm usually on here the longest when I'm working on something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 2 big arranging/ engraving projects, a conducting project and a late-term research paper due in the next few days. I'm usually on here the longest when I'm working on something Ahh. Procrastinater. When I was getting my biology degree, I absolutely would not study for even one second untill I felt some pressure of deadlines that I was in danger of missin because I couldnt get motivated unless I felt the stress. it worked well for me. I did really well in school, and developed a habit of cramming for 14 to 16 hours a day for days on end after neglecting almost a semester of science. I liked the pressure, needed it actually, but I will say that I hated the stress, and always used to beg myself not to do it again the next time. It never worked. Myself always refused to listen to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted April 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ahh. Procrastinater. When I was getting my biology degree, I absolutely would not study for even one second untill I felt some pressure of deadlines that I was in danger of missin because I couldnt get motivated unless I felt the stress. it worked well for me. I did really well in school, and developed a habit of cramming for 14 to 16 hours a day for days on end after neglecting almost a semester of science. I liked the pressure, needed it actually, but I will say that I hated the stress, and always used to beg myself not to do it again the next time. It never worked. Myself always refused to listen to me. Funny thing is, I'm not procrastinating; I just have that much work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 You could try a Dm7 there, too, but you'd loose that cool secondary dominant effect. Did you try an FM9 yet? You could also do a Bm7b5 (7 half-dim.) before the final chord the second time 'round instead of the last G (5) to spice things up a bit. Substitute an Am7 (6-) for C (1) every once in a while, too Original: C-F6-C-F6-C-G-C-G-D-G-C An idea: C/E-F6-C2-FM9-Am7-G-Dm7-Bm7b5-CM7 Another: C2/E-FM9-C/G-F6-CM7/E-G-D7/F#-G7-CM7/G Play around with it a bit to make it fit Rules of thumb: 1. a Major 1 chord can usually be substituted by a 6 minor, and sometimes by a 5 2. a 5 chord can usually be substituted by a 7 half-dim. (m7b5) 3. Major chords can usually be substituted by 6 chords. i.e. F (4) in the key of CM may be substituted by F6. 4. Major 2 chords must resolve to 5 chords, ESPECIALLY when it's a 2dom.7 5. look for good transitional chord voicings Just saved that nice post as a .txt file. Thanks, Justin- Good info there and I'm sure glad u came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 O.k., I'm closing this window and putting in my "50 Country Style Licks" DVD right now. I will do at least 45mins. of practice today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 I've already put in about 90 minutes this morning. Fingering chromatics and working the chords again. WP, on that prog I'd been hammering the D with my pinky, on the C chord, G on the D chord and D again on the F6 chord. Nice sound to it. Using for these lyrics: "Friendly skies" Whatever happened to Honest smiles, Friendly skies Good times, happy highs Starry nights, easy lives Open eyes and open minds How did they sell you Dirty lies and alibis Soundbites, suits and ties Bad vibes, day and night Super-sized borrowed lives Whatever happened to The empathy between you and me Are we strangers? Are we enemies ? Whatever happened to Your identity Your integrity Did you sell them out For luxuries? What can you say? A big toothy grin A secret handshake what lurks within Is an empty fake Typically cynical for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Oh yeah, I'll easily put in three hours today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members streetknight Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Well, I haven't been around much, but have been practicing at least 1-2 hours a day, well maybe not practicing, I recently bought some recording stuff, so I've been probably more time than I should with that. Didn't get to practice last night cause I was cleaning my basement, and tonight Got to hang sheetrock over head down there, so I may not feel like it tonight either. Here's to a good weekend practicing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted April 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Just saved that nice post as a .txt file. Thanks, Justin- Good info there and I'm sure glad u came back. Everyone here needs one of these: http://www.planetwavestuners.com/index.php?option=com_tuner&task=tunerdetailpage&id=17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted April 13, 2008 Members Share Posted April 13, 2008 Haven't been slacking. Practiced bit more than four hours friday, three hourssunday and already an hour in today. I'm really close to actually writing agood song. With "Friendly Skies" the lyric has such a flow that I was able tocome up with a really nice melody for it. A bit floydish/bluesy acoustic withsolo and outro. Really, WP helped me nail the melody down, it needed thatG-D-G-C. I'll take it to my teacher tuesday, see what she thinks of it. The one sticking point is the change from Cmaj-C6 to F6 barre. I need the barre because the bass note is needed there. I know. PRACTICE. Can't we just make this a sticky? This actually helps people to not suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted April 13, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 13, 2008 Haven't been slacking. Practiced bit more than four hours friday, three hours sunday and already an hour in today. I'm really close to actually writing a good song. With "Friendly Skies" the lyric has such a flow that I was able to come up with a really nice melody for it. A bit floydish/bluesy acoustic with solo and outro. Really, WP helped me nail the melody down, it needed that G-D-G-C. I'll take it to my teacher tuesday, see what she thinks of it. The one sticking point is the change from Cmaj-C6 to F6 barre. I need the barre because the bass note is needed there. I know. PRACTICE. Can't we just make this a sticky? This actually helps people to not suck. If you're going G-D-G-C You HAVE TO go G-D7-G7-C/G to end things. It's the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted April 13, 2008 Members Share Posted April 13, 2008 If you're going G-D-G-C You HAVE TO go G-D7-G7-C/G to end things. It's the law I'm trying to keep it simple, so this one doesn't sound lame. Though using The G-C sounds so melancholy, that's what I'm after. Seriously, it has to be in C, 'cause no F#, Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted April 13, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 13, 2008 I'm trying to keep it simple, so this one doesn't sound lame. Though using The G-C sounds so melancholy, that's what I'm after. Seriously, it has to be in C, 'cause no F#, Right? G7 is a dominant 7, meaning the 7 is b. So, GBDF, not G Maj. 7 which would be GBDF#. The D7 (DF#AC) is actually diatonic to G, which makes for a pretty cool 5/5 (the 5th chord (D) in the the 5th chord (G) of your original key: C) to 5 to 1 cadence. If you save it for key points it can be a nifty way to add unexpected texture. A G9 would sound pretty cool there as well (GBDFA). You're already playing 5/5 with your D (diatonically a minor chord in CM, a Major or Dom.7 chord in G), so you may as well go one more step and make it a Dom.7 for the extra pull to G. D is 5 (or the dominant) of G (GABCD...), which leads naturally to 1; A (5 of D) is 2 of G (GABCD...), which also leads naturally to 1 . The Dom.7 of D is 4 of G (GABCD...) which leads less strongly to 1 , but can provide some unique color all its own to the progression. As a bonus, the 7 of D is also your Tonic (1) in your overall key. Considering how often guitar-based Rock/ Pop/ Blues uses a 4 to 1 movement, it's a good idea to integrate the voicing when you can. Just don't overdo it, or you'll end up with jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jbviper4 Posted April 14, 2008 Members Share Posted April 14, 2008 Spent three hours Saturday practicing different scales over blues progressions. Twas fun and I can "see" where I need to go more than ever. Got nervous and muffed a bunch when I started recording it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Santuzzo Posted April 14, 2008 Members Share Posted April 14, 2008 After a weekend of no practice at all, I'm back today.... I already practiced for 2,5 hours in the morning, worked on scales and alternate picking as well as some legato exercises. Now I will do at least 30 more minutes of alternate picking practice. AWESOME thread ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leopardstar Posted April 14, 2008 Members Share Posted April 14, 2008 i have to wait today untill the wife wakes up from her nap, but i plan on doing at least 2 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tyrone111 Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 my goal is usually an hour a did 4 hours yesterday and put a blister on my left index finger cant play anymore today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 I'm in, but I practice by playing songs. I don't have any formal type of stuff to practice. I do play at least 30 minutes a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cletus Spuckle Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 I helped my son practice clarinet and, lo and behold, he pulled off an hour at practice. Helping the boy helps me with my sight reading too. But I didn't count it as my practice. My practice was a bit easier. For the last three days I've been playing this sort-of-Celtic figure I hear in Pogues and Dropkick Murphys music. It's complex for me, but since yesterday, I've mastered it and I spent today's practice effortlessly riffing through it. But pride goeth before the fall so I'll stop bragging right here before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kakan Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 I will try to play 30 minutes a day. I got in a little over an hour today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 Put in about three hours yesterday. Have a lesson tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jbviper4 Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 Did an hour each of scales, timing and alternate picking last night. Followed by generalized wankery playing along with backing tracks....fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 Taking the prog I got for "Friendly Skies" to my teacher, see what she thinks. Lucky me, she can help me sing it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.