Members jpnyc Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 I've never picked up a Gibson that had glaring QC problems. Setup issues aren't the same thing as QC issues although I think no nut slots would still qualify, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 The SG needs locking tuners cause the Klusons, while cool looking, slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pizza Combo Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 I wanna see a non Custom Shop version of the Axcess LP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Friendly Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 Originally Posted by thozzman Just picked up my 2013 SG Standard from local GC after I had ordered it online. Got home, and damn, the neck pickup doesn't work! WTF...so much for Gibson QC. Tomorrow it's back to the store and will order a new one that hopefully will work. And next time I'll try it before leaving the store. Very disappointing, to say the least. What do you think of the new neck shape? I'm hoping it is the same neck shape as the 61 Reissue SG. I don't like the old SG standard neck shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carbohydrates Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 Originally Posted by deanmass The SG needs locking tuners cause the Klusons, while cool looking, slip. I severely doubt it. Gibsons tend to have inherent tuning stability problems, but it's not the fault of the tuners. In fact, tuning machines have essentially nothing at all to do with tuning stability, unless they're worn to the point of physical deformity. If your Gibson has tuning stability issues, it's almost certainly the nut. Sorry to derail the thread, but this myth that tuning issues are the fault of the tuning machines themselves really needs to be squashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MatteK Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 My LP Traditional has the stock klusons and they work fine. And even though I hear the strings ping in the nut when tuning it sometimes, it holds its tuning really well. I like that the 2013 SG standard looks like a '61 reissue and comes in white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vcnyls Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 Originally Posted by Pizza Combo I wanna see a non Custom Shop version of the Axcess LP You're in luck - Gibson Shred Les Paul - http://www.musiciansfriend.com/searc...les+paul+shred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 Some of them are quite pretty. They are using a lot of rubbed finish. I am still happy I got my 2 LP Tributes with baked maple fingerboard when I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kuz929 Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 Wow, really surprised to see all the hate in here! hahIf you ask me, I'm actually quite impressed. Yes, they're the same old Les Pauls and SGs, but they're finally affordable. A USA Gibson under $1k? That was "fairy snuff" a few years ago. I gotta applaud them on that, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 7, 2012 Members Share Posted December 7, 2012 Originally Posted by grape Ah yes, the "telecasters, stratocasters, les pauls, SGs, ES-335s and all other well known popular electric guitars, as well as D-28s and most known acoustic guitars, are terrible and you're an idiot of you like any of them" argument. But it can sure fire up a mob in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vcnyls Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Some good looking basses coming out! I like the EB: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carbohydrates Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Earlier in the thread, I made some disparaging and dismissive remarks about the 2013 lineup. All is forgiven because of this one, though: Yuuuup, I'll be buying one of those as soon as I sell some stuff off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flintc Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Originally Posted by peskypesky why the pickguard hate by Gibson? Maybe Gibson customers are able to control their picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mav64 Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Originally Posted by w00dsy i'm digging the gritty look of this one, the price is kinda nice too. Not sure the pickups would be great but a swap is easy enough. I love that exactly as is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Carbohydrates . sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Originally Posted by MatteK My LP Traditional has the stock klusons and they work fine. And even though I hear the strings ping in the nut when tuning it sometimes, it holds its tuning really well. I like that the 2013 SG standard looks like a '61 reissue and comes in white. So might just be the nut? Easy enough. It is my only non-loking guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Originally Posted by vcnyls Some good looking basses coming out! I like the EB: These look really nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeatherAnnePeel Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beter pan Posted December 9, 2012 Members Share Posted December 9, 2012 Previously, there have been the Les Paul Traditional Pros, with affordable solid body (not the weight-relieved thing), slim tapered neck and coil splitting. OK. Now they still continue coil-splitting with the Standards and the Studios. but where is the Traditional?On the middle-price wing, they continue the Les Paul Classic Plus lineup. But they discontinue the Classic Customs.Moreover, Gibson seems to discontinue producing the plain-coloured guitars largely. Almost only a few ebonies at Traditionals, Standards, Studios and Classics.Then, there is this Tribute Studio thing.IMHO, 2012 was a better year for the Les Paul guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted December 9, 2012 Members Share Posted December 9, 2012 Originally Posted by beter pan previously, there have been the les paul traditional pros, with affordable solid body (not the weight-relieved thing), slim tapered neck and coil splitting. ok. now they continue coil-splitting with the standards and the studios. but where is the traditional... on the middle-price wing, they continue the les paul classic lineup. but they discontinue the classic customs. moreover, the gibson seems to discontinue producing the ebony coloured guitars largely. no ebony at traditionals, standards, studios and classics... imho, 2012 was better for the les paul lineup. the Traditional was the answer to demand for the company continuing the "Old Standard", when the design changed to a chambered body. Gibson's new fan chambering backs off from the near hollow design the went with to more of a logical progression from the weight relief of the Standard/Traditional line. the Classic Custom was Gibson's temporary solution to their rosewood and ebony issues. now that the situation has been resolved, that part of the line is no longer needed. as for black guitars, i'm sure they'll be out there. Gibson needs to do something with their stock of ugly wood that needs to be painted over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beter pan Posted December 9, 2012 Members Share Posted December 9, 2012 Originally Posted by Help!I'maRock! the Traditional was the answer to demand for the company continuing the "Old Standard", when the design changed to a chambered body. Gibson's new fan chambering backs off from the near hollow design the went with to more of a logical progression from the weight relief of the Standard/Traditional line. True. But the Les Paul Traditional Pro with the split coil was better than the Studios and cheaper than the Standards. Anyway.... A Les Paul above the Studio lineup is generally quite a good guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted December 9, 2012 Members Share Posted December 9, 2012 Originally Posted by beter pan True. But the Les Paul Traditional Pro with the split coil was better than the Studios and cheaper than the Standards. Anyway.... A Les Paul above the Studio lineup is generally quite a good guitar. you can always add split coil. if Gibson uses the same 4 wire pickups (not sure on that one) then it's the cost of two push/pull pots. the Studio seems to have returned to it's roots as a spec-identical Standard, without the trim. both now have the long tenon w/ fan chambering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fusion1 Posted December 9, 2012 Members Share Posted December 9, 2012 That's what I would do with this guitar if they go on sale next Christmas when they are being blown out again like the Tributes this year. I'd probably go with real EMGs even though I like the look they have, just not a fan of the 490R/498T set. I have heard if you swap the magnets between them, they become a much better sounding and better balanced set and no idea why Gibson sticks with the magnets in them the way they do. the 498 T has an alnico 5 which makes it sound thin in the bridge. The 490R has a Alnico 2 in the neck making it sound muddy. Adding the warmer A2 to the 498T in the bridge makes it better and adding the punchier A5 in the neck makes the 490R much less muddy and more fluid. Originally Posted by w00dsy ah i didn't see they were 490/498's. Yeah they are good pickups. It could have almost done with black bridge as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JTEES4 Posted December 10, 2012 Members Share Posted December 10, 2012 Originally Posted by RaVenCAD Looks a lot like "more of the same" to me. Gibson is either stuck with the tried and true, or they go ape-{censored} and make some weird, ridiculous thing no one would ever want. I guess "more of the same" is their best bet. Usually two posters fight that Gibson is 1. "stuck with the tried and true" and 2."go ape-{censored} and make some weird, ridiculous thing"...you covered them both and YES I do know there is a middle ground...but seriously I am starting to get the idea that Gibson just can't win no matter what they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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