Members bogey_j Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 this is kinda inspired by the 'drummer turnover' thread, but what type of band member would be the easiest to replace? I think most would probably say bassists or drummers, but i'd say guitarists. Virtuoso guitar players are a dime a dozen these days. Just stroll into guitar center on any given day and you'll find a handful of them. Obviously a special guitarist is hard to find, but I think it would be harder to find a great drummer or bassist than guitarist. Vocalist are by far the hardest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khem1cal Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 I think it really depends on the type of band you have. I write/compose my own stuff and have guys setup to play it live while I sing. So they're all equally easily dispensable. If your band has lots of complicated drumming, it would be harder to replace him, if you're more guitar driven and have some complicated riffs it may be harder to replace the guitarist, etc. But in general i'd say guitar is the easiest to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim_7string Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Definitely guitar, no question in my mind. My thoughts on the hardest is definitely the lead singer (they pretty much make or break the band), second would be the keyboardist (because they are rare), bassist (hard to find, harder to get just the right fit) and finally, the drummer. But guitarists are a dime a dozen. It's why I avoided playing it in my teens, because I knew that *everybody* plays guitar. But I eventually relented because I wanted a sound other guitarists just weren't giving me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mr3lions Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 guitar or anyone who drinks, does drugs or shows up late in excessive amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SomeoneYouKnew Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 It depends on what other roles that person fills. Regardless of the instrument they play, if they have a strong voice OR they do a lot of the arrangements or writing OR they do bookings and business OR they're the one everyone takes their cues from on stage, they'll be hard to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TrickyBoy Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Vocalist are by far the hardest. I'd disagree with this statement. I think keys would be the hardest to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 I voted guitarist for the above mentioned resons but, the easiest to replace is the one you don't get along with! Toughest must be keys, I sing so I got that covered! Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigjd Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Bass Player. We've been through so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 this is kinda inspired by the 'drummer turnover' thread, but what type of band member would be the easiest to replace?I think most would probably say bassists or drummers, but i'd say guitarists. Virtuoso guitar players are a dime a dozen these days. Just stroll into guitar center on any given day and you'll find a handful of them. Obviously a special guitarist is hard to find, but I think it would be harder to find a great drummer or bassist than guitarist. Vocalist are by far the hardest. I'm a guitarist, so I don't usually go looking for guitar players, but I'll say, and this applies to any instrument, somebody who is a "virtuoso" in Guitar Center, may or may not be a good band mate. You want somebody who's competent on their instrument, but experience and personality are every bit as important as chops when it comes to playing with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ForgetMeNacht Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 I have no problem finding another guitar player, it's finding one that I can work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Microtilt Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Guitarists, both competent and not, are common as dirt around here. Other instrumentalists, not so much. Good singers and keyboardists are rare as diamonds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khem1cal Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 I'm a guitarist, so I don't usually go looking for guitar players, but I'll say, and this applies to any instrument, somebody who is a "virtuoso" in Guitar Center, may or may not be a good band mate. You want somebody who's competent on their instrument, but experience and personality are every bit as important as chops when it comes to playing with others. So true, that applies to any instrument as well. You can do so much more and make so much better music with people you enjoy then with a virtuoso with a {censored}ty attitude. A decent player with a great personality is better than any cocky shredhead can do for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Guitarists, because there are a zillion around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boogieplaya Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Even in a rural area like i live in, guitarists (good ones too) are a dime a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceNorman Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 I would have checked "The guy who owns the PA" ... but it wasn't an option in the poll. As far as which instrument is hardest to replace - I think the answer depends MORE on the individual musician than the individul instrument. I've been in bands where an "OK" guitar player was the real catalyst within the band - and would have been tough to replace even though the band was located in a sea of guitarists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 The easiest to replace:The one that always screws up his parts. The one that is unreliable, or has unreliable gear. The one that has an attitude problem. The one that sucks on his instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Well it really does depend on the band and what kind of sound you're going for. In general, I think bass players are the easiest to replace for the type of stuff I do, but in my band that wouldn't be the case because our bass player is also the lead singer. Really it'd be tough to replace anybody in our band, because we're a trio and everyone sings, writes songs, and contributes a lot to the overall sound. I agree that guitarists are common as dirt, even "virtuoso" ones, but I don't think that makes them easy to replace (again, depending what you're looking for). My band started out with the intention of having a second guitarist, but we never could find one who meshed with me really well (except for Peter Case when we play with him - I'd play guitar with that guy all day long, but that's different ). It's a very particular style and virtuosity doesn't have a lot to do with it. Either somebody gets it or doesn't, and it's easy to tell pretty quickly. Drummers, to me, are really hard to replace because I'm really picky about them - the type of stuff I do requires a really great one. Whereas for some bands who are just looking for a "time keeper," it's probably pretty easy to replace a drummer. So it really just depends on what your music requires... and of course, any really good musician who really fits well with your band is going to be hard to replace. If they're just adequate, it won't be so hard, and maybe your band requires somebody who's "just adequate" to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Virtuoso guitar players are a dime a dozen these days. Just stroll into guitar center on any given day and you'll find a handful of them. Most of em playing stuff designed to impress, out of time. Put em in a band and they crumble, step on the mix, don't play tastefully....The good ones that are already in or have been in bands usually ain't the ones in there showing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 Depends on the band and type of music. I'd say guitarists simply because there are so many of them available, but I'd also be inclined to say bass players as the change in that chair will usually have the least impact on the sound of the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhat Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 the one that is always whining about something.....even if they are really good ,, there is a certain calm that takes place when they go over the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 I'd say guitarists simply because there are so many of them available, but I'd also be inclined to say bass players as the change in that chair will usually have the least impact on the sound of the band. It would crumple our band (replacing the bassist). That's because the drummer and I have played together for a while now, and a lot of the tunes we play live or die by the rhythm section. For big dumb rock type stuff, yeah I agree: bass doesn't have to groove with the drums because there usually is no groove, just straight time. Oh yeah, I also own a big chunk of the PA. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim_7string Posted September 19, 2010 Members Share Posted September 19, 2010 the one that is always whining about something.....even if they are really good ,, there is a certain calm that takes place when they go over the side. Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeniorBlues Posted September 20, 2010 Members Share Posted September 20, 2010 It's about the band. . . in other words, the qualities of the band are at least as important as the qualities of the prospective new member. If you're playing music (and have gigs already booked) that appeals to someone, you'll fill the chair. . . . . at least in a large urban area. If you live in a small town, there's a finite number of musicians. On a permanent basis, the singer, then the drummer is the hardest to fill. Guitar and bass, the easiest (if they don't sing lead.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maxnew40 Posted September 20, 2010 Members Share Posted September 20, 2010 I have to say the drummer is at least the quickest member to get a replacement worked in. The thing about a decent drummer is that they can fake thier way through a song that they are familiar with. They can't play a wrong note and don't have to worry about key changes or any of that stuff. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted September 20, 2010 Members Share Posted September 20, 2010 in a cover band? i would say guitarist, but i don't think that the first replacement will be better than the other, and you might search for someone to really fit in in an all original band?depends, who is doing what creative things in the band. if all members work the same on writing new songs, arranging them, so everyone would be hard to replace, no matter what instrument they play. the one who puts the least effort in the creativity section, is the one easiest to be replaced, unless he/she owns the pa/rehearsal space or what ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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