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A loose but fun trio jam on "cissy strut" recorded off the mic with a zoom h4 in a smallish room. http://cl.ly/0t0C3y1i0t3h?_ga=1.52708398.728714826.1415377786

sproinnnngggg! What was that? I can't hear you.

I'm a big Victor Wooten fan, and can understand your feelings towards his playing, but the same things can be said about a lot of musicians. I love the Flecktones, but there's not a single one of them that doesn't "overplay" at times. If you had the ability to add a wanktastic flurry of notes every now and then, wouldn't you do it? I know I would. To me it'd be like owning a Ferrari and never driving it over the speed limit. The temptation would be too hard to resist. I think Vic plays some of the best, solid, most flowing, walking basslines out there when he's playing with a group, but I've yet to hear someone complain. No one ever says "I like the guy's playing, but his lines were just too simple. He could have easily played 32 notes per bar, but he only played 4." He's one of those bassists that other bassists seem to either love or hate, but I don't think it's right to call him overrated. That's all good - just realize that at the end of the day nobody gives a shit about solo bass or generally finds it musical other than bass players. Stanley Clarke got normal people interested in solo bass, but I think that was more his image and stature in the fusion world - a really unique time in music that will probably not be repeated any time soon. You know - cats are wired to hear upper midrange frequencies - that's what they enjoy. Humans are wired to hear midrange frequencies. Except for bass players - they just hear things differently than everybody else, and sometimes they actually fool themselves into thinking their excursions actually invoke emotional responses other than anger in the audience. Like they say: don't stop drumming, because that means the bass solo begins. :poke:

I've tried time and time again to listen to some of Wooten's solo stuff, and whilst I appreciate the technicality of it, it just seems that it's over-played, over-hyped and generally not that 'groovy'. Take his version of Amazing Grace (it's on YT). Brilliant technical ability, but the fact is that you could easily strip away half the notes played. It sounds messy and overdone to my worship-music playing self. I LOVE Bela and the Flecktones and his playing in the band, but to me he is NOT a solo player. He makes up for souless playing with streams of notes and fast playing. Am I alone? No. I feel almost exactly the same way about Wooten. He's a great player though, there's no doubt about that.

Yes, they were your posts. With Geezer, quoting Canadian law to rebut your unsubstantiated claims. Whatever you say. At least I cited REAL WORLD examples, in the midst of others referring to 'black markets' and other concepts with NO CITATIONS WHATSOEVER. You're fooling yourself buddy, but you don't fool me. PhilthyGeezer has more intellectual honesty in his pinky than you'll ever know, though your education and perhaps IQ is superior. You would do well to learn from his example.

No offense, but all of that just proves you're not the one being rational here. You're the one obviously influenced by emotionally traumatic experiences. It's fine to base your opinions on such events, many people would given similar circumstances. But to hold yourself up as a paragon of dispassionate and unbiased reason, and then to declaim everyone else as emotionally-driven troglodytes, when that's obviously not the case is going to get you exactly where you currently are...dismissed by nearly everyone... Bull{censored} - this response was to disrespectful words directed my way. There were three whole pages of assumptions and conclusions reached with no data cited whatsoever. Where were you then? Instead, you'd rather focus on my response to being dis-respected and use that discredit everything I have offered up in this thread.

That would be in bad taste. I'm sorry you blame the guns for what happened to the people in your family. No, I blame EASY ACCESS to guns. You'd better hope nothing like this ever happens to you: it will shake you to the core and you WILL start asking the tough questions.

Seems like everyone else is conversing with each other without issue. And yet everyone seems to have a problem with your posts. The problem must be everyone else, right? No, you need to consider that social pressure does not apply equally to everybody. Dissenting opinion should be treated more respectfully. George has provided no rebuttals, yet he claims to have "shot me down" so many times. C'mon mr. intellect - if you're so honest, why won't you call that out? Oh - that's right - because his position agrees with your own. You sir are intellectually dishonest and biased.

Well, consider that one month ago my sister in law had her head blown off by her nutjob ex husband. Consider that my cousin blew his head off due to easy access to his father's gun. Consider that my old man was killed by a gunshot to the head. Consider that there are people out there GRIEVING, suffering terrible loss, at the hands of some asshole who had easy access to a weapon. Why don't you go to one of those funerals and preach your rah rah rah ideology - see how that goes over.

How do you feel about "scientists" who stick with old theories that have been proven wrong or there is an overwhelming preponderance of evidence that indicates their position is false? Look man, we can {censored}ing have a respectful discussion or this goddamn thread should be locked. What's it gonna be? This {censored} is getting tired - you fuickers need to find someone else to screw with. {censored}ing circle jerk. Because where you are wrong about me is that i don't have a position: I'm trying to engage in a discussion but you guys would rather close ranks and go with the idiotic caveman binary logic that is so prevalent around here. If we dont' know where the {censored}ing guns are coming from, we can't possibly have an informed opinion about gun control, BE IT PRO OR CON. We have INSUFFICIENT DATA TO MAKE A CONCLUSION. GET IT?

In this circumstance, I don't think it is - not when we've been through this same argument more than a couple of times, and Wade has made it obvious that no amount of fact nor reason is going to sidetrack him from the same 'ol BS... - georgestrings C'mon George, is that all you got buddy? So you hate dem liberals, and I guess I have come to represent that to you. SO rather than present something meaningful, you instead resort to 3rd grade level garbage like this. I'll leave you fanbois to your rabid circle jerk - it's quite obvious that this is not a respectful discussion; my fault for thinking that this could occur.

Applying your argument to LA, your claim would be that the fully automatic weapons on the street (AK47s, Tek-9s, Uzis, etc.) were all stolen from private owners... The LAPD would disagree with you. And given that only a few thousand people in the whole country even possess the FFL necessary to purchase those weapons (which the LAPD has confiscated in the tens of thousands over the past two decades), anyone who can work simple math would likely disagree with you as well... And that's just one city... "And that's just one city" - yeah, one crazy ass {censored}ed up city. What is your point? That the city of LA is representative of other cities? For someone who seems to champion intellectual honesty, you sure do resort to some sleight of hand to try and make your point. I'm the only mutha {censored}er on this board that doesn't give a {censored} about social acceptance it seems - when the circle jerk starts you fall right in line with the populist opinion. A little intellectual honesty, giving equal consideration to opposing viewpoints would be a refreshing change of pace and quite frankly educational; yet you seem to prefer the relative saftey of the reigning majority.

Sure. That's why no one smokes marijuana in North America. Well it's banned, isn't it? Strawman. Anyone can grow pot. Only glock can make a Glock: the initial sale was legitimate. So how is that gun on the street? Show me the "back alley network" that is so often alluded to by gun proponents? Oh that's right - you can't, because the lame ass media will not inform us of the history of the handgun used in the crime. Got you all to think, didn't I? Think....question the media reluctance and reluctance of law enforcement agencies to collect and disseminate real data on gun origins.

My point is I keep hearing about this supposed "criminal arms network", yet I have seen little if any evidence to support this claim. Why not talk about the odds of your registered home protection piece being stolen and sold on the street? Let's follow the gun trail to the source, shall we, and dispel once and for all this myth of back-alley arms dealers that are menacing our fair country. They don't exist, people. The street guns that are out there right now were stolen from YOU, the honest gun owner with good intent that couldn't or wouldn't secure the piece from theft.

How can 16 and 17 year old "legally" purchase guns... Don't you have to be 18? The college kid... No idea, man. There are crazy people everywhere. They had an 18 year old friend make the purchase. This criminal may very well have done the same thing.