Members DaleH Posted August 9, 2015 Members Share Posted August 9, 2015 Les Paul did get a royalty on every Les Paul sold. If that's not a signature model then what is? Vai don't get {censored} for every Jem sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted August 9, 2015 Members Share Posted August 9, 2015 It's amazing how this guy's threads always generate the dumbest arguments that go on for pages and pages. Who cares? I've never owned a signature model, but Les Paul's name is indeed on my Epiphone Custom. Does that make it a signature guitar? I don't care. It's my guitar. You know, as a relative newcomer to this forum all I ever hear from the old hands was how great it was here "back in the day" when there were pages and pages of argument and wind-ups every day and "feelings ran high". So this should make them happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted August 9, 2015 Members Share Posted August 9, 2015 For reasons I explained above. The Les Paul is NOT a signature model!!! Jeez, Fender has his name on Strats They are not "Leo Fender signature" models either. Nor is the Crown Victoria a Ford 'signature' model. That's just ridiculously illogical. Leo Fender was NOT a guitar player. He was the OWNER of the company. Les Paul was NOT the owner of Gibson. Merely an artist that came to an agreement with a guitar maker to make HIS guitar. His is the VERY definition of "signature model". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted August 9, 2015 Members Share Posted August 9, 2015 It is perfectly logical. Do not blame me for your lack of understanding of the term "signature model".His is the VERY definition of a 'designer model.' A completely different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted August 10, 2015 Members Share Posted August 10, 2015 You are wrong on the Les Paul for one simple reason: "Signature" guitars are a modeling of an artists departure from a standard model In this case, the departure from the standard Gibson model being the solid rather than hollow body - but I do understand what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 10, 2015 Members Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think so long as and "Artists" name is printed on a guitar it qualifies as a signature model. Les Paul was unique because he was and artists and more heavily involved with designing and manufacturing, but he still qualifies. What you can argue are the double signature models. Does a paint job or pickup wiring really make the instrument different enough to have a second name on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ballhawk Posted August 10, 2015 Members Share Posted August 10, 2015 Is there an ignore thread button? I think I'll go play along with some Les Paul music now and see if I can improve my skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted August 10, 2015 Members Share Posted August 10, 2015 On balance I thing the LP qualifies and therefore wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 it's not the les paul. that isn't technically a signature model guitar' date=' [/quote'] It's not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Notes_Norton Posted August 11, 2015 Members Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'm really amused with what we can find to argue about. I'm sticking with my previous vote - Les Paul, as nobody has convinced me otherwise yet. Of course, assuming that is a copy of his signature And it's OK to disagree with me. I haven't been elected God yet, but I'm a potential candidate (OK, the odds aren't very great, but I'll work on that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted August 11, 2015 Members Share Posted August 11, 2015 It would depend on if you meant continuous. Nick Lucas would have had one before Les Paul, which is a signature model despite what people say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted August 11, 2015 Members Share Posted August 11, 2015 It would depend on if you meant continuous. Nick Lucas would have had one before Les Paul, which is a signature model despite what people say. Good call, the Nick Lucas guitar came out in 1927, and was discontinued in 1938. However there were re-issues in the 1990s, and the Gibson Nick Lucas Elite Custom in 2005. As to long-running, Gibson's Roy Smeck signature model acoustic guitar came out in 1934 and is still produced today in limited runs. It hasn't been in continuous production since it was introduced, but neither was the Les Paul. So since Roy Smeck guitars have been for sale for over 80 years, it might qualify as the longest-running signature guitar. I think I'm pretty safe in saying that Gibson most definitely considers the Les Paul a signature guitar. Remember, he was a certified pop music star in the 50s who sold a gazillion records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted August 11, 2015 Members Share Posted August 11, 2015 BREAKING NEWS from Gibson Support people: I stand corrected, there was a run of Nick Lucas guitars in 2015 and Wildwood guitars has a bunch of sale. So I guess Nick gets the longest-running signature guitar crown. Props to Garrett Hamilton for the info, whose commanding knowledge of guitar trivia indicates he clearly has way too much time on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 That's what I figured. Pretty easy call on that one as the Nick Lucas is an amazing, iconic instrument. Talking about electric guitars it would be the Les Paul. If people don't get that then it would probably be Chet Atkins. My guesses would be: Nick Lucas Les Paul Chet Atkins The Everly Brothers in that order We could probably put Roy Rogers into there somewhere if you count those toy guitars, especially since a lot of folks out there are playing toy guitars these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 nope....you're just wrong. And totally illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 I think this has had enough of an impact that it should qualify in its own way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbengs1 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 It's not? It would be boring to say it is. the les paul is one of the first solidbody electric guitars ever made. give the props to a less famous instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 We could probably put Roy Rogers into there somewhere if you count those toy guitars, especially since a lot of folks out there are playing toy guitars these days Gene Autry would have to go on the list too then... he probably pre-dated Roy insofar as "singing cowboys" go, and they sold a ton of Silvertone / Harmony guitars with his name on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It would be boring to say it is. the les paul is one of the first solidbody electric guitars ever made. give the props to a less famous instrument. No need to let excitement get in the way of facts... It may be "boring", but if Gibson and Les both considered it to be a sig model, that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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