Members Metrosonus Posted January 3, 2012 Members Share Posted January 3, 2012 VST to me is limited in lack of good copyright protection and on board DSP processing. I would think that a DSP based USB box would act as a dongle and still allow for higher quality VSTs to made, but no one cares apparently. they all need their wub cheap and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poserp Posted January 3, 2012 Members Share Posted January 3, 2012 I've been wondering recently about the possibility of using an FPGA in an analog circuit as a sort of re-wireable analog synth. Not sure if that's actually possible (I do have a "cd" that demonstrates the concept in a way -- Tristan Perich's "1-Bit Symphony"), but at the end of the day an FPGA outputs voltages on pins. Amplification and modulation of those voltages seems to be the main task, plus perhaps stabilizing them (are the signals coming out of the chip too noisy to use as analog sound sources?). Also, I'm not sure if any of the pins can output continuous voltages (i.e. perhaps you can only get a square wave, although that could be modified to create other waveforms). And then, of course, coming up with different "programs" that are useful that reconfigure the chip in ways that make sense. Almost like a SID but you could rewire the analog and digital parts of it, say, to implement more filters or more oscillators (depending on your needs at the time). Anyways, thinking out loud.Adding, after some googling what I probably ought to play with is an FPAA -- Field Programmable Analog Array.Edit: like this -- http://servenger.com/products/ordernow.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k2500x Posted January 3, 2012 Members Share Posted January 3, 2012 Originally Posted by ElectricPuppy I think the fact that I found this thread on the bottom of Page 3 says alot about what everyone thinks about NAMM this year. Derp. You made it all the way to page 3 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tom_richard Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 What about those teasers from Nord?drumshttp://www.nordkeyboards.com/home/images/namm-1.jpgorganhttp://www.nordkeyboards.com/home/images/namm-2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members McHale Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 Originally Posted by ElectricPuppy Truly. I think the days of fantastic leaps in instrument technology are behind us. Now it's just increments in price or minor features. Whoop-ti-doo. The KRONOS has been released. It will be "catch up" for the other synth makers for years to come. Everybody can go home now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 Originally Posted by k2500x You made it all the way to page 3 ?? shhh! he tells his wife it's his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Synthaholic Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 My wish for 2012 is for manufacturers to put much more emphasis on quality keybeds. M-Audio is the poster child, of course, but I've demoed cheap, lousy feeling actions recently on Yamaha, Korg and Roland, also. I thought the Korg M50 61/73 was atrocious for an over-$1000 board. And the cheap Yamaha synth is also awful (MO6?).If they are only going to concentrate on great sounds and electronic wow, just make modules. They seem to forget that people have to play these things, and love doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Conbrio Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 Originally Posted by Synthaholic My wish for 2012 is for manufacturers to put much more emphasis on quality keybeds. M-Audio is the poster child, of course, but I've demoed cheap, lousy feeling actions recently on Yamaha, Korg and Roland, also. I thought the Korg M50 61/73 was atrocious for an over-$1000 board. And the cheap Yamaha synth is also awful (MO6?). If they are only going to concentrate on great sounds and electronic wow, just make modules. They seem to forget that people have to play these things, and love doing so. +1 It's ridiculous to charge $1000+ for a keyboard that has the keybed of a $99 Casio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted January 4, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 Modules and software both helped me to evaluate actual keyboard capabilities separately from their sound generating capabilities.IOW - it's possible to have a great keyboard with not so great sounds - and vice-versa. It's a rare board that gives you both acceptable features and sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 If building a VST host box was simple or cheap then we would all happily own a V-Machine or Receptor. Both are customized PCs under the hood and they still have issues.It would be better to define a new open-source plugin standard that was designed from the ground up with hardware hosting in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members playstation Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 Originally Posted by Conbrio +1 It's ridiculous to charge $1000+ for a keyboard that has the keybed of a $99 Casio. +1000 All three of my dirt cheap synths from the eighties (Esq-1, Alpha Juno 1, and D-50) have nicer keyboard feel than any modern chinese-made mid level keyboards from Korg, Yamaha, Roland etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Bernard Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 $599.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Audacity Works Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted January 4, 2012 Members Share Posted January 4, 2012 Nice BALLS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Gaul Posted January 5, 2012 Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Originally Posted by Synthaholic I thought the Korg M50 61/73 was atrocious for an over-$1000 board. And the cheap Yamaha synth is also awful (MO6?). I thought that it's a general consensus that MO6 has better Keys than Korg M50-61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members liliththekitten Posted January 5, 2012 Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Originally Posted by Bernard IS THIS REAL LIFE? It's like a Moog Dark Energy. DO WANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted January 5, 2012 Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Originally Posted by liliththekitten IS THIS REAL LIFE? It's like a Moog Dark Energy. DO WANT. I will sneak it past home security... Lay low... say very little.. try not to smile... act normal... they won't notice... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members donaldcrunk Posted January 5, 2012 Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 awesome new moooooooooooooog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zzzxtreme Posted January 5, 2012 Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Gaul, it does. M50's keys feels so much "air", as horrible as alesis QSalthough, I think it is intended to keep the weight down. 7+kg vs MO6's 10+ kg. when I disassembled my Korg 01/w, I find the heaviest part is the keybed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted January 5, 2012 Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Originally Posted by scenicsquare awesome new moooooooooooooog! New wave shape (square) and audio in. Less LFO shapes.. Full ANA/Bull circuits. It will be interesting to here the new waves at those frequencies and power characters... More than I could wish for as the T3 is too big and pricey for my needs, this thing is perfect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted January 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Originally Posted by Bernard New wave shape (square) and audio in. Less LFO shapes.. Full ANA/Bull circuits. It will be interesting to here the new waves at those frequencies and power characters... More than I could wish for as the T3 is too big and pricey for my needs, this thing is perfect... Probably won't be long till everyone wants a Moog Minitaur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stabby Posted January 5, 2012 Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Originally Posted by zzzxtreme Gaul, it does. M50's keys feels so much "air", as horrible as alesis QS although, I think it is intended to keep the weight down. 7+kg vs MO6's 10+ kg. when I disassembled my Korg 01/w, I find the heaviest part is the keybed Makes me wonder. How much would modern cheap keybeds improve if you glue a weight under each key? edit: apparently some people have done this with succes: http://www.butoba.net/nordlead/nl2weight.html http://forum.ukpianos.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1708 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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