Members donaldcrunk Posted December 7, 2011 Members Share Posted December 7, 2011 i want a looper that accepts INCOMING MIDI CLOCK (yes roland, i don't want your looping pedal to clock the rest of my setup) and creates synchronous loop points locked to the tempo. and i want it to go on the floor, not up in a rack. please. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJ RAZZ Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by Robbins It would be logical to think that the price difference between the mopho module and the mopho keyboard would be the same as between the tetra module and the tetra keyboard. If there was to be a tetra keyboard, it would be the same keyboard case as the Mopho keyboard, but in black. If we are imagining a product called the Tetra keyboard let's see. It would have to be 4 voices with the ability to polychain a second Tetra box for 8, it would need 37 keys and a keyboard design like the MEK, aftertouch, knobs, knobs, and more knobs, good software, and a price tag of around $1,700US. For the record, I would pay this for a DSI with the Tetra sound and keyboard in one, plus portability, the cool black color, the sub OSC, and a half dozen other things that make the Tetra great. Please Dave reconsider. I don't think I am alone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Palaver Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 As stated earlier, why not just buy the Mopho keyboard and polychain it to the Tetr4? That was the whole point (from the DSI perspective). However, I think you'd much prefer the form factor that you suggested? A Mopho keyboard and a Tetr4 can be had for less than $1700 USD. It would be portable, have 5 voices with sub-osc, and be tweaked/edited with all the knobs from the Mopho keyboard. In fact, this is most likely what I am going to do. I'm a big fan of my Tetr4. I'd love to have that one extra voice and the knobs from the Mopho keyboard for editing purposes. Originally Posted by DJ RAZZ If we are imagining a product called the Tetra keyboard let's see. It would have to be 4 voices with the ability to polychain a second Tetra box for 8, it would need 37 keys and a keyboard design like the MEK, aftertouch, knobs, knobs, and more knobs, good software, and a price tag of around $1,700US. For the record, I would pay this for a DSI with the Tetra sound and keyboard in one, plus portability, the cool black color, the sub OSC, and a half dozen other things that make the Tetra great. Please Dave reconsider. I don't think I am alone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJ RAZZ Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by Palaver As stated earlier, why not just buy the Mopho keyboard and polychain it to the Tetr4? That was the whole point (from the DSI perspective). However, I think you'd much prefer the form factor that you suggested? A Mopho keyboard and a Tetr4 can be had for less than $1700 USD. It would be portable, have 5 voices with sub-osc, and be tweaked/edited with all the knobs from the Mopho keyboard. In fact, this is most likely what I am going to do. I'm a big fan of my Tetr4. I'd love to have that one extra voice and the knobs from the Mopho keyboard for editing purposes. I would do it, because Dave was pretty clear about his vision of the Tetra desktop and the Mopho keyboard as the answer to knobs and a keyboard for the Tetra. This is a great combo for the studio guy who will hook this up and leave it. I would make it work live as well by racking the Tetra with a line mixer and have them hooked together. Just add the Mohpo keyboard and any other keyboards to the line mixer and be done. Oh yeah and the polychain cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJ RAZZ Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Are we officially off topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 What I am dreading is an Octatrack update to the MIDI implementation that actually allows realtime looping from any MIDI foot controller (some pieces are in there, but all from what I understand), as well as an update that finally adds the Looper machine (with full functionality).I dread it because I'd be compelled to buy one if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robbins Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by DJ RAZZ Are we officially off topic? Sorry about that. Happens from time to time. Did I mention I want Yamaha to make a Synth Based on AWM2, AFM and VA synthesis with a smart and easy Nord like control surface? It is what my day-dreams are all about before every NAMM. I hope they will add a synth into their lineup, any at all really. More to confirm that they haven't quit doing synths, except for Motif workstations. If Korg would make a Synth based on MOD-7 engine from Oasys/Kronos, it would be interessting too. Access should come up with something soon I hope. Tom Oberheim may have a Project X going on. http://m.matrixsynth.com/2011/05/new...erheim-in.html Can't wait for NAMM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seamonkey Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 the matrixsynth link isn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by DJ RAZZ Are we officially off topic? Yes BTW there is one thing you do lose with polychaining Mopho + Tetra...combo mode doesn't work I own a desktop Evo and a PE rack and it's the same story with that rig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robbins Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by seamonkey the matrixsynth link isn't working. Oops, thanks. try now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seamonkey Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by Robbins Oops, thanks. try now. OMG that would be awesome! one thing though is his comment about energy level and SEM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robbins Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by seamonkey OMG that would be awesome! one thing though is his comment about energy level and SEM's. I think he is 84 years old. Breathtaking that he started doing synths again at his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thorhead Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Thursday, Jan 19 10 a.m.-6 p.m. Friday, Jan 20 10 a.m.-6 p.m. Saturday, Jan 21 10 a.m.-6 p.m. Sunday, Jan 22 10 a.m.-5 p.m. Is the Namm moved to a later date this year? I can't possibly wait this long with all the gas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Only 42 days left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'm kinda sad that I won't be attending this year. I've got a home renovation project going in preparation for sale, so I won't have time. In fact, right now my studio is entirely boxed-up and sitting in storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJ RAZZ Posted December 8, 2011 Members Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted by Meatball Fulton Yes BTW there is one thing you do lose with polychaining Mopho + Tetra...combo mode doesn't work I own a desktop Evo and a PE rack and it's the same story with that rig That is a bummer. So it is more like a polyphonic Mohpo keyboard than a Tetra with a keyboard and knobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Audacity Works Posted December 9, 2011 Members Share Posted December 9, 2011 Used to dread NAMM, but now that I'm not working the floor, it's a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seamonkey Posted December 9, 2011 Members Share Posted December 9, 2011 IMO don't expect too much from the big 3 this year. The release of the Jupiter 80 and Kronos last year will be it for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robbins Posted December 9, 2011 Members Share Posted December 9, 2011 Originally Posted by seamonkey IMO don't expect too much from the big 3 this year. The release of the Jupiter 80 and Kronos last year will be it for a couple of years. You forgot to mention Yamaha. They only have outdated workstations and Stage pianos. A synth with pots and sliders is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Conbrio Posted December 11, 2011 Members Share Posted December 11, 2011 Originally Posted by Robbins You forgot to mention Yamaha. They only have outdated workstations Well, they have been recycling the Motif in various forms for 10 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJ RAZZ Posted December 12, 2011 Members Share Posted December 12, 2011 Originally Posted by Conbrio Well, they have been recycling the Motif in various forms for 10 years now. Plus the XF is not really that old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Conbrio Posted December 12, 2011 Members Share Posted December 12, 2011 Originally Posted by DJ RAZZ Plus the XF is not really that old. True, and it may take another year or so, but I'd like to see Yamaha come up with something truly innovative (and I'm sure many others here agree). The Motif has always sold well over the years with its upgrades and improvements, but it's still "more of the same". If Yamaha produced something like the Kronos--including Karma and drum riffs--it would definitely be the next "game changer." We can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robbins Posted December 12, 2011 Members Share Posted December 12, 2011 Originally Posted by Conbrio True, and it may take another year or so, but I'd like to see Yamaha come up with something truly innovative (and I'm sure many others here agree). The Motif has always sold well over the years with its upgrades and improvements, but it's still "more of the same". If Yamaha produced something like the Kronos--including Karma and drum riffs--it would definitely be the next "game changer." We can only hope. If Yamaha was to make gamechanging workstation, they should go all the way back to EX 5 and SY77 and start from there: EX 5: AWM2 (Advanced Wave Memory) Synthesis, AN (Analog Physical Modeling) Synthesis, FDSP (Formulated Digital Sound Processing) Synthesis, Virtual Acoustic (VL) Synthesis. SY77: 6 operator AFM synth with 45 algorithms, 3 feedback loops and 16 waveforms. Now put this together into a nice keyboard with huge touch display. And upgrade specs up to todays standards, you would have the new Gamechanger from Yamaha. Edit: And sequencer and total integration with a computer. Then make a synth based on the same specs, but with a nice frontpanel for programming and without sequencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Quru Posted December 12, 2011 Members Share Posted December 12, 2011 Originally Posted by Conbrio True, and it may take another year or so, but I'd like to see Yamaha come up with something truly innovative (and I'm sure many others here agree). The Motif has always sold well over the years with its upgrades and improvements, but it's still "more of the same". If Yamaha produced something like the Kronos--including Karma and drum riffs--it would definitely be the next "game changer."We can only hope. I think Kronos and Jupiter-80 make Motifs even more appealing to certain segment. There's lots of people who want quality bread&butter sounds out of the box and Motif has always fullfilled that need. Kronos and JP-80 are heavenly synths for tweakers, but I don't think multiple synth engines, gigabytes of piano samples or 512 oscillators really appeal to somebody who plays country in the band. KSS and Gearslutz aren't the only marketing segments...E: Despite that, I would really like to see todays version of EX5. But no touch display, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted December 12, 2011 Members Share Posted December 12, 2011 The worst thing on that EX5 is that AN part could only be 2 note polyphonic... whereas AN1x is 10 voice polyphonic. It's a shame Yamaha didn't have dynamic voice allocation back then. It's also limited when using AN, FDSP or VL in Performance mode, and chops off insertion effects from 3 out of 4 parts if you use any of those...Now if Yamaha would bring the EX5 concept in 2012, it would surely mean a lot more polyphony and DVA, and more FX power so you don't ever lose any effects. Along with SY77 FM power, it would really be amazing, I reckon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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