Members Chrisjd Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think it is silly that amp companies don't build gates/suppressors into their amps? Many high-gain amps are unusable without a gate, especially live. Why would an amp company sell an amp that you couldn't use out of the box? Woud a guitar company sell a guitar without strings? Would an automaker sell a car without a battery? What teh FECK!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crackfoom Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 i would not buy an amp with a built-in gate. {censored} gates. i hate them. they eliminate 75% of the feeling out of your tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I dont use gates with my amps, actually the Sl-X i have is dead {censored}ing silent when I am not playing..really nice, the splawn is a little noisy but not too bad, its about the same as my peavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I've never used a noisegate. I owned an NS-2 for a while, but I only used it as a lead boost for solos. And I used to have teh 5150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I've never used a noisegate. I owned an NS-2 for a while, but I only used it as a lead boost for solos. And I used to have teh 5150. a ns2 for a boost? how do you do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmtnt Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 i would not buy an amp with a built-in gate. {censored} gates. i hate them. they eliminate 75% of the feeling out of your tone. Either A: you're using the wrong gate or B: user error on setting up the gate. The good gate will have NO effect on your tone until the very end of your note/chord decay. Try an ISP Decimator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dropsix Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 They don't come with noise gates because only n00bz(and/or persons with inadequate quantities of toane in their fingers) use feedback/noise enducing amounts of gayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 a ns2 for a boost? how do you do that Not sure, I had it in my effects loop, and noticed that when I stepped on it, it reduced the volume a little bit. So I just kept it on all the time, and disengaged it when I played a lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I don't want any effects built in to my amp that I can't turn off. Even when I was playing death metal I never had noise issues and wanted to use a gate. I haven't used one since I was a n00b playing through a Valvestate. Maybe I'm just not playing the right (or wrong) amps or not using so much gain that it would be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 Why would an amp company sell an amp that you couldn't use out of the box? Woud a guitar company sell a guitar without strings? Would an automaker sell a car without a battery? What teh FECK!? I had a long answer typed out for how insanely stupid your post is, but it's just not worth it. I'll just post your statement again: Why would an amp company sell an amp that you couldn't use out of the box? Along with a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Girvinator Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I agree they should be. Probably too expensive and not enough room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted January 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I had a long answer typed out for how insanely stupid your post is, but it's just not worth it. I'll just post your statement again: Why would an amp company sell an amp that you couldn't use out of the box? Along with a That's cool bro, you don't play amps that would need a gate so I woudn't expect you to understand this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I had a long answer typed out for how insanely stupid your post is, but it's just not worth it. I'll just post your statement again: Why would an amp company sell an amp that you couldn't use out of the box? Along with a In his defense, look at the 3 amps you own. You'd really have to NOT know what you're doing to need a noise gate with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 Either A: you're using the wrong gate or B: user error on setting up the gate.The good gate will have NO effect on your tone until the very end of your note/chord decay. Try an ISP Decimator.Noise gate isn't a correct term. Signal Gate is more accurate. Its just a gate that works off of a signal strength threshold. Once a signal is so low, it shuts off any signal. Once it is open, whatever is in the signal chain goes straight through, noise included. The nioise is usually just lower than the actual notes going through as well so the noise gets "shouted out". I find them unnecessary, and many times detrimental even with high gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted January 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 BTW. I don't use that much gain either, considering the amps I am playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gabriel E. Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 If your amp is so noisy that you need a gate then: 1) You're using too much gain and your sound is mush. 2) There's a grounding/shielding problem somewhere. 3) Your amp sucks. 4) You're using too much gain and your sound is mush.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 If your amp is so noisy that you need a gate then: 1) You're using too much gain and your sound is mush. 2) There's a grounding/shielding problem somewhere. 3) Your amp sucks. 4) You're using too much gain and your sound is mush.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 Noise gate isn't a correct term. Signal Gate is more accurate. Its just a gate that works off of a signal strength threshold. Once a signal is so low, it shuts off any signal. Once it is open, whatever is in the signal chain goes straight through, noise included. The nioise is usually just lower than the actual notes going through as well so the noise gets "shouted out". I find them unnecessary, and many times detrimental even with high gain. Big +1 here. I can't stand the way they kill your playing dynamics. Try to back off your guitar volume and play softly and you get some stuttering mess. I play a single coil guitar -> Rat and it makes a lot of noise if I don't keep on top of it. I still wouldn't consider a noisegate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted January 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 If your amp is so noisy that you need a gate then:1) You're using too much gain and your sound is mush.2) There's a grounding/shielding problem somewhere.3) Your amp sucks.4) You're using too much gain and your sound is mush.. You're full of {censored}. Take a 5150, put the gain on 5, and try playing live with a band. There is so much noise and squeeling going on if your not rolling off the volume constantly it isn't even funny. I know what I am doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 Hey Chris , what pickups you mainly use ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crackfoom Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 You're full of {censored}.Take a 5150, put the gain on 5, and try playing live with a band. There is so much noise and squeeling going on if your not rolling off the volume constantly it isn't even funny.I know what I am doing. solution: don't buy a 5150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 You're full of {censored}.Take a 5150, put the gain on 5, and try playing live with a band. There is so much noise and squeeling going on if your not rolling off the volume constantly it isn't even funny.I know what I am doing. something's wrong with your amp, then. the other guitarist in my band has a 6505 and he plugs straight in. no feedback issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 You're full of {censored}. Take a 5150, put the gain on 5, and try playing live with a band. There is so much noise and squeeling going on if your not rolling off the volume constantly it isn't even funny. I know what I am doing. Are you boosting your 5150 to get that level of noise?? I've played quite a few 5150's and never had this problem. Granted you have a LOT more experience with them, and I can't recall the settings I was using. I do remember the gain was set higher than I normally use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiny_Surface Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I've always used/needed a gate with any of the high gain amps I've used over the years, especially at high volume levels. You can get away with it at lower house volumes, but they all get pretty hissy when they are cranked and set for high gain imo. Although you need to differentiate background hiss at loud volumes to instant squealing/feedback when you stop playing...both suck imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted January 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 Hey Chris , what pickups you mainly use ? Seymour Duncans, the sh-6 Distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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