Members telephant Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 As loud as most old Marshalls hum, I never notice it on stage. At practice between sets, I will but at least I know its working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 I don't get that argumentative often, but was ripe for it today at work. No big deal, really. As far as confrontational HCAF exchanges go, that was actually pretty light by this forum's standards imo. All I asked is that you be right on at least ONE of your argumentative assumptions. Hit a home run for a change, not keep hitting foul balls (actually you would have struck out, but...meh) Not too much to ask for, is it?:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 I would never want a gate built into my high gain amps/ Not even if it was the Prorack G knowing full well that's the only gate that's ever even come close to being a great gate. Even then, Why would I want it built in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 I would never want a gate built into my high gain amps/ Not even if it was the Prorack G knowing full well that's the only gate that's ever even come close to being a great gate. Even then, Why would I want it built in? Some people just want to plug striaght into the amp...with nothing else to worry about? I know...there always a tuner to worry over. How the {censored} do you work that in? I'd like wah/volume too. And a "clean boost". But...I want my noise gate built in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members freehandarson Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 maybe companies fear that their noise gate will end up like the engl powerball v1 roflz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 I personally dont like noise gates and i play with a large amount of gain. If the problem is inbetween songs or with noise in the breaks of the song there is a very simple solution. Switch your amp to the clean channel. No squeel, no noise, no feedback. At least thats always worked for me???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa4x12er2 Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 i would not buy an amp with a built-in gate. {censored} gates. i hate them. they eliminate 75% of the feeling out of your tone. What? I have a huge rig with multiple amps and even with the guitars volume knob down you will get some "air" noise if the amps are cranked. I have an ISP inbetween my guitar and the rig, and the ProRackG in the high gain loops... no lost "feeling" and you won't even know my rig is on till I play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockanomicon Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 I would rather have the option to apply the noise gate of my choice that be stuck with some half ass {censored}ty noise gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FalseRevRG Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 i'm with Dropsix....good muting technique > gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doittoday Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 I think it is silly that amp companies don't build gates/suppressors into their amps?Many high-gain amps are unusable without a gate, especially live. Why would an amp company sell an amp that you couldn't use out of the box?Woud a guitar company sell a guitar without strings? Would an automaker sell a car without a battery?What teh FECK!? because then the base retail price would have to be higher,which doesn't look good when you're trying to sell something,especially if not everyone feels a noise gate is a good or necessary thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 Some people just want to plug striaght into the amp...with nothing else to worry about? I know...there always a tuner to worry over. How the {censored} do you work that in? I'd like wah/volume too. And a "clean boost". But...I want my noise gate built in! That's all fine and good but I know that the ONLY gate that has done what it should do is the Decimator. Period. I wouldn't even use or want to pay for some hack gate that the company is packaging. The powerball's gate is a great example..that things almost unusable for the people who actually need a gate. It never works out right that way. It's too idealistic. Same thing applies for amps that have built in effects:rolleyes: It's never better than a stand alone unit that is using processing power for that purpose alone;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 because then the base retail price would have to be higher,which doesn't look good when you're trying to sell something,especially if not everyone feels a noise gate is a good or necessary thing +1That's pretty much it right there..Price point and then on top of that how good is this gate?Ever notice that amp companies don't make gates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 Good question. But, I couldn't take my Cobra or Rivera onstage and play it without having feedback and squeeling. Feedback and squealing to me would indicate just too much gain, and/or too hot of a signal into the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 3, 2009 Members Share Posted January 3, 2009 Feedback and squealing to me would indicate just too much gain, and/or too hot of a signal into the input. Probably the latter...Not that you can get away from that if you like a boosted tone. Which brings us back to the point of why a gate is so important in the first place:idea:problem>>>>>solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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