Members Misha Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Hi! Maybe that some of you have read about it in the newspapers, well, for those who didn't, Quebec turned into a big casserole symphony! It started when the prime minister decided to increase the student fees of 75%, but now, it's reaching also all those who are against the corrupted government of the province. I'm still working as usual. When I come back from work, at 20:00, I can hear people hitting casseroles. They gather together and walk in the streets. Hundreds - if not thousands - walk in the neighborhood, sometimes just in front of my building. It's noisy, but not dangerous as long as I don't go downtown where police officers and manifestants* (don't know if this word is good in English) play it (very) rough! [video=youtube;UgNdTBkhu3Y] So, that's a bit why I don't come here often, this "printemps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poppytater Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Casserole From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A casserole, from the French word for "saucepan",[1] is a large, deep dish used both in the oven and as a serving vessel. The word casserole is also used for the food cooked and served in such a vessel, with the cookware itself called a casserole dish or casserole pan. In British English, this type of dish is frequently also called a bake, coinciding with the cooking technique used to cook casseroles. In Minnesota, this type of dish is sometimes called "hotdish." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 is a large, deep dish used both in the oven and as a serving vessel. The word casserole is also used for the food cooked and served in such a vessel, with the cookware itself called a casserole dish or casserole pan. In British English, this type of dish is frequently also called a bake, coinciding with the cooking technique used to cook casseroles. In Minnesota, this type of dish is sometimes called "hotdish."Yep! Even with new strings, my guitar is too quiet. I can't compete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickoshea Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 {censored} Misha ... that would become somewhat annoying but you gotta admit, their rhythm is pretty good Looks like your Prime Minister is similar to our new President ... a "socialist" who was brought up in the arrondissement seizieme - the richest part of Paris, and who owns 2 houses in the south of France ... hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Glenn F Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 "Prime Minister" is a misnomer. Misha is actually referring to the 'Premier' of the province of Quebec. Are you wearing red, Misha? I support the students, but not violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike_E_McGee Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Good lord! Gatherings of that size make me very nervous. Stay safe girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Opa John Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Actually, that looks pretty tame to me if compared to some of the student protests I've seen here in the USA. I didn't even see any cars upside down and on fire or cops on horseback swinging their clubs. Of course, that could change at any moment, Misha, so you're wise to just stay inside where you're safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Glenn F Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Apparently, there have been a few vandalized cop cars, and shops. Nothing burning, yet. Except the Premiere's temper, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terry Allan Hall Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Interesting! How's the movement going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Glenn F Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Hard to say. The government is on the defensive, and the draconian law they just passed to quell the dissent has only fueled the flames. It is being challenged in court, and certain provisions are sure to be struck down as being unconstitutional. A French right-wing columnist from Le Soleil has openly called for fascist tactics to break up the demonstrations. More people have been detained during this mess than in 1970, when there was a real terrorist threat in Quebec. I'm just happy I don't live there anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 "Prime Minister" is a misnomer. Misha is actually referring to the 'Premier' of the province of Quebec.Are you wearing red, Misha?I support the students, but not violence. In my heart, I'm wearing red, Glenn and just like you, I support the students, but not violence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Starrshine Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Yes, Misha, I have been following this also. I have a friend that teaches music in Gaspe and he has posted a lot of Facebook about itBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 It's not just about the student fees, anymore. It seems that every group that has something against the government is joining the movement. In Quebec, the Mafia finance the political parties. In exchange, they obtain public contracts (to build roads, bridges, etc.) Journalists write that we pay 30% to 40% more than we should for our infrastructures. Individuals pay so many taxes, it's crazy! On the other side, big companies who make millions of profit often don't pay any taxes or pay a very low percentage. The middle class is imposed at 33% to 48% of it's salary. We also pay 14.9% for taxes on goods and services. Students fees are not high compared to other places in the world but our taxes are much more higher and the money that the government takes from us is not used for what it should be. An important part is detourned to pay "friends" of the members of the government. It took two years before the prime decided to create a public inquiry in the field of construction, I guess that paper-shredders have been very busy in the public offices meanwhile. (Link: http://www.globalnews.ca/quebec+corruption+inquiry+gets+underway+in+montreal/6442645963/story.html ) In quebec, the Prime sets the date of the elections himself... That doesn't help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted May 26, 2012 Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Bon Chance Misha and be safe! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Actually, that looks pretty tame to me if compared to some of the student protests I've seen here in the USA. I didn't even see any cars upside down and on fire or cops on horseback swinging their clubs.Of course, that could change at any moment, Misha, so you're wise to just stay inside where you're safe. The casseroles concerts are pretty safe, to date. It's the nightly protests that are more violent. Last night it was the 32nd nightly protest in a row. These are downtown, it's much more quiet where I live and where I work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 26, 2012 Bon Chance Misha and be safe!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms Thank's OGP! Don't worry, I'm safe! Particularly today because I'm at the office working overtime! Also, I'm only at ten minutes from my apartment, by bicycle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted May 27, 2012 Members Share Posted May 27, 2012 Good for them! I have several relatives in Quebec and would really love to see them get what they deserve from their regional politicians. Driving from Ontario into Quebec is a real eye-opener. The perfect roads give way to roads covered in potholes and it's not subtle. I love Montreal - it's one of my favourite cities in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Glenn F Posted May 27, 2012 Members Share Posted May 27, 2012 It was one of mine, too (hometown for 30 years), until I visited there last summer, for the first time in 14 years. Urban decay, more poverty than I remember, noisier and more crowded than I remember. Most of my friends have left for the 'burbs, or other provinces. Koiwoi, it was always, at least within my memory, like that, driving between Ontario and Quebec. You can always tell you've entered Quebec by the condition of the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Samilyn Posted May 27, 2012 Members Share Posted May 27, 2012 Misha, I'm thinking of you and sending lots and lots of Safety Mojo your way. I don't blame the protesters one bit and though I don't approve of violence, I do hope the people can get a message across to the government. I especially hope the government actually listens to them. Most don't, including ours. In the meantime, you be careful, my friend. I'm going to worry about you until all this subsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 29, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 29, 2012 Misha, I'm thinking of you and sending lots and lots of Safety Mojo your way.I don't blame the protesters one bit and though I don't approve of violence, I do hope the people can get a message across to the government. I especially hope the government actually listens to them. Most don't, including ours. In the meantime, you be careful, my friend. I'm going to worry about you until all this subsides. Hi Samilyn! I'm still as safe as usual! Went to work then came back home safely today too! Jurists joined the party today (real professionals). That says how much the government is contested! It's in French, but the images speak for themselves...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsN8_AlOuKk http://www.lapresse.ca/# Other video about "les casseroles": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Michael Martin Posted May 29, 2012 Members Share Posted May 29, 2012 You know, I'll be needing a percussionist this fall when I get back to Iowa from Rome. Maybe I should have you post some "help wanted" ads at one of these events? Not that it's a paying job, of course Stay safe Misha. And watch those potholes while biking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members MDR Posted May 29, 2012 Members Share Posted May 29, 2012 Koiwoi, it was always, at least within my memory, like that, driving between Ontario and Quebec. You can always tell you've entered Quebec by the condition of the roads. The roads in Ontario aren't so good these days, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 30, 2012 You know, I'll be needing a percussionist this fall when I get back to Iowa from Rome. Maybe I should have you post some "help wanted" ads at one of these events? Not that it's a paying job, of course Stay safe Misha. And watch those potholes while biking. Lol " help wanted"! Maybe I could send you Jean Charest! We don't want him anymore! But that that wouldn't be a gift... The potholes are so big in Montreal, thermographies are now required to walk through them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted May 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 30, 2012 LOL where did you take this picture!!!!!! EPIC!!! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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