Members littlemilo Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 I like it. looks like a real workhorse guitar. I like it too. IMHO it's the nicest of the fadeds that have been posted in this thread. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. But I'm also one that doesn't care much for flamed tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rock-lobster Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 So you think that the top on that green guitar is nicer than the one on this Les Paul? that is a very nice flame to me. i prefer the one on my guitar but that's just MHO. while your preferences of wavy, modest, straight, over the top, whatever it may be mar vary, i think it's common knowledge that certain things can make a top good or bad: bookmatching quality, consistency, making sure that it doesn't make the finish of the guitar appear blotchy, etc. i do like that top, but it's a rare exception if you ask me. there are some gibson tops that just make me shiver. ps that green guitar is my new carvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fred zappelin Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 The bookmatching on that guitar is horrendous, it would make a nice factory second for about $1200 bucks. Send it back, get you money back, and shop for a guitar in a store where you can see and play it first.But the faded LPs are not supposed to be real lookers so the one you got realy isn`t bad looking at all. Sounds like you aren`t really happy with the faded look as compared to the glosssy LPs so send it back now and go do some real shopping in real stores where you can see, feel, smell, play and listen to them. For that kind of money I wouldn`t {censored} around with buying on line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Quarter Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 I'll see your flame and raise you a quilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 Again, Gibson did NOT bookmatch all of those 58-60 Les Paul Standards, nor did they use their best flame maple on the original bursts. That wood was reserved for the BACKS of their hollow bodied jazz guitars. There's a ton of variation. That's been their tradition and they have continued it to this day. The difference is that all of the original bursts sold for the same price whether they were figured or not. So that's been my frame of reference. When I thumb thru the Beauty of the Burst, I see lots of different tops, some of them not very well matched, but they mostly have one thing in common--the gradation of the dark to light sections of the burst, if it is still present, is fairly smooth and even. The curl varies tremendously, and there are plenty of flat sawn tops with dramatic, flowing mediary grain that looks beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hey guys:I'm kinda new here but I need your feedback on an issue:Last week I placed an order for a Tobacco Sunburst Faded Standard at AMS. Right after I placed the order online (before it was processed) I called them and asked if they could hand pick one with a nice top for me and they said it would be no problem.Well I got the guitar today and I really don't like it. Actually seeing the pics of the Faded Standards on the web, it looks like EVERY guitar has a better top than mine. I am so disappointed it's not even funny. I called AMS about returning it but they say it would take at least 2 weeks for me to get another one and NOW they're telling me that there is no way they can select tops because the warehouse is on the other side of the country, so there is a big possibility I will get another just like it. I wish I knew that when I placed the order. what do you guys think? Should I just keep the guitar the way it is even though I am not 100% happy with it? Or should I send it back and wait 2 weeks and risk getting something just like this one?? Get a refund and go somewhere else?Am I crazy for being upset about this? Am I being unreasonable?I'm really bummed out because I've been wanting this thing forever and now that I can finally get it, it is not what I was expecting.... If your credit card can handle it, order 3 or 4 of them, and when they come in, pick your favorite, and send the rest back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 For those of you who prefer subtle--check out this 58 Historic at Wildwood ($3100). Usually these are very plain. http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/gibson/historic_les_paul/87199/87199.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 For what it's worth...E.M. Shorts is a great place to buy from. They have great customer service and they've always come through with very good prices. They are great. I bought 3 Gretsch Setzer Hot Rods and nearly bought a Faded there. Services was really good and they'll do work on the guitar after the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phishmonkey Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 The bookmatching on that guitar is horrendous, it would make a nice factory second for about $1200 bucks. Send it back, get you money back, and shop for a guitar in a store where you can see and play it first. I agree here. The color could work but the top looks really weird with flame on only one side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 Send it back and select the one you like from here:http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LP5FTBNH/ This was good advice that I think got overlooked. Personally, I like the way the one you got looks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 If you want to see insane flame.... That's tattooedcarrot's. He should've sold it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members id-man Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 another pic with more detail... I say you put Neil Young on stage with that thing around his neck and everyone would be creaming themselves over it's gorgeous classic character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted September 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 If you want to see insane flame.... That's tattooedcarrot's. He should've sold it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 If you want to see insane flame.... That's tattooedcarrot's. He should've sold it to me. It's been "unsharp masked" in Photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 Here, Bilma. I did it for yours: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brewski Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 hmmm.. no. Looks and tone are not mutually exclusive and at $1600 I want both. and six months worth of oral sex!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lowbrow Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 I saw one of those in a local store last night. Had a plain top. {censored}ing gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mokaccino Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dude, I own the same model as yours, and it's simply gorgeous. That faded finish looks so impolite, so nasty, so rock n roll... I think yours is beautiful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jdjonsson Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 I recommend Sweetwater too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkytone Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 I've never heard Billy Gibbons talk about the way "Pearly" looks. Your guitar has plenty of credibility: It is a Les Paul made by Gibson, with a very distinctive look, like it's made from real wood by human hands. It looks like a real rock and roll machine. There is nothing wrong with high-end book-matching etc., but this one has a timeless cool quotient way beyond those guitars, I think. And you like the way it feels and plays which is a huge factor and doesn't happen with every guitar...make yourself happy, it is your choice, but that guitar doesn't have to impress anyone but you. In a store full of Les's, if that one played better than all the rest, then it would be a no-brainer for me to walk out with that one, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jdjonsson Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 There is that place in California that TattoedCarrot frequents that i came super close to buying from but didn't when 123 met their price match. Can't remember what its called. Is it Centre City Music in San Diego? I hear Saul is the man to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I bought one unseen from 123 and it looked like it was topped with Heinz 57. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hmmm, another likeee vote for that one Yeah me too, I think it looks great. A lot nicer than the VM I was considering. Of course, it's twice the price too.But I've been seeing these new for $1500 or maybe less on ebay. Maybe I'll bite on one of these soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members numbthumb Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 I'm not a fan of curly maple. I like the colour and finish of your guitar fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhorne Posted September 28, 2007 Members Share Posted September 28, 2007 I'd call Sweetwater and see what they'll do for you. I bought a Faded Tobacco Burst 50s neck from them back in Jan or Feb and they knocked it down to $1399 for me. If you're unhappy with yours and end up sending it back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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