Members Anderton Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I've really tried to make 2.0 work, and I appreciate that many of you have, too. But when given a chance to compare the two forums side-by-side, it's obvious which one gives a better user experience. The current situation is clearly unacceptable. I've been working behind the scenes with Jon Chappell on presenting a solution to HC management. We think we've come up with the best one possible given the circumstances, and so do they...once the details are ironed out next week, we'll be making an announcement. I really can't say anything more right now as there are a few remaining issues that need to be resolved. But suffice it to say it's a solution that's very similar to what has been proposed many times by the HC community and the moderators, so I think this situation will be turned around, and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FXR Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I tried to settle in there and made several posts. But, I can't navigate the place. I program vBulletin forums for a living. So yeah, I know this board better. But that software over there is just missing too many key elements of what most forums have available regarding navigation. Maybe I just can't find them? But I gave it a fair try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I've really tried to make 2.0 work, and I appreciate that many of you have, too. But when given a chance to compare the two forums side-by-side, it's obvious which one gives a better user experience. The current situation is clearly unacceptable. I've been working behind the scenes with Jon Chappell on presenting a solution to HC management. We think we've come up with the best one possible given the circumstances, and so do they...once the details are ironed out next week, we'll be making an announcement. I really can't say anything more right now as there are a few remaining issues that need to be resolved. But suffice it to say it's a solution that's very similar to what has been proposed many times by the HC community and the moderators, so I think this situation will be turned around, and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Beck Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 Good to hear Craig... no one can say you didn't try. You went above and beyond to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted May 8, 2010 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2010 Welcome back! We've been waiting for you. Terry D. P.S. I must admit I'm wondering in the back of my mind if someone's hacked your account... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted May 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 Welcome back! We've been waiting for you. Terry D. P.S. I must admit I'm wondering in the back of my mind if someone's hacked your account... It's really me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I tried as hard as I could and I really appreciated the color change a day or so ago (though still bland), but the platform is just slow. And you can't fix that. I really did like the "potential" factor and hope that a new solution will still try to move in the same forward direction. I can't help but mention that vBulletin has what appears to be a CMS/forum hybrid that looks like it would do the trick. Funny how we're all vBulletin salesmen now. I'm really sorry you have had to go through this, Craig. If there's one thing none of us need, it's more drama and stress. And all the assholes that trashed you out and questioned your integrity we're out of line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I will note that this has been one hell of a ride. You don't get good quality entertainment like this on other forums. Who needs cable when you have HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted May 8, 2010 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2010 I will note that this has been one hell of a ride. You don't get good quality entertainment like this on other forums. Who needs cable when you have HC? Forums run much faster now with >50% casualties. Hopefully some will return over time. Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I was thinking more of the drama ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bp Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 Welcome home Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I tried as hard as I could and I really appreciated the color change a day or so ago (though still bland), but the platform is just slow. And you can't fix that. I really did like the "potential" factor and hope that a new solution will still try to move in the same forward direction. I can't help but mention that vBulletin has what appears to be a CMS/forum hybrid that looks like it would do the trick. Funny how we're all vBulletin salesmen now. I'm really sorry you have had to go through this, Craig. If there's one thing none of us need, it's more drama and stress. And all the assholes that trashed you out and questioned your integrity we're out of line. many of us stood up for craig even though we didnt like the new format. craig knows who has his back and it is us who have said back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr. Nick Riviera Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I'm glad to hear this, I hope the forums can be what they once were, with the improvements that HC is trying to make and without the bugs.... But suffice is to say, I still think HC is happy with the fact that they've pretty much killed OJ, which to everybody here seems to be some kind of drag on their sensibilities. Their relentless downplaying of one of HC's most trafficked forums shows me what they really care about..... Thanks for marginalizing us Anderton and HC, it's why we won't be back as steady contributers or spend our money at Musician's Friend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I think you give yourselves to much credit. (OJ) Any basis for these theories, other than a vivid imagination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paulslagle Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 It's really me. Pics or your lying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Hiller Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I liked a lot of things about the new format, but there were just sooooo many bugs, albeit most of the ones I experienced were small. Still, for every person like me who could for the most part navigate the site, there were a truckload of those who couldn't, for whatever reason, and if the site can't be made to work reliable for the majority, well, SOMEthing has to be done. And as much as I like a lot of the new features.... seriously, ANY small change they made at the Jive site would take days for them to actually implement, like it was a pain to program it or something. I dunno. I just want to see the community back to where it was before, regardless of what format it is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bookumdano2 Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 ??? o? ???o p??ool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermph Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 HC gave many loyal, years-long posters the middle finger. The failure of 2.0 is a sweet, sweet savor in my nostrils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 44deluxe Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 HC gave many loyal, years-long posters the middle finger. The failure of 2.0 is a sweet, sweet savor in my nostrils. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members butterknucket Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 This might help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Dr. Nick Riviera Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 I think you give yourselves to much credit. (OJ) Any basis for these theories, other than a vivid imagination? Give ourselves too much credit?....who the {censored} is giving anybody any credit, you sure's to {censored} ain't so as far as I'm concerned, you don't really need to worry about it, now do you? The numbers on OJ spoke for themselves, and I've seen your sorry ass piddling around there yourself, so any argument you seem to make is pretty much null and void.....just like the importance of these forums to a lot of people that used to consider them so.... Go piss up a rope, asshole... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goominim Posted May 8, 2010 Members Share Posted May 8, 2010 Jon Hiller and his ilk are such douche-bags and kiss asses. Ha ha....i laugh at you. i laugh at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted May 9, 2010 Members Share Posted May 9, 2010 Give ourselves too much credit?....who the {censored} is giving anybody any credit, you sure's to {censored} ain't so as far as I'm concerned, you don't really need to worry about it, now do you? The numbers on OJ spoke for themselves, and I've seen your sorry ass piddling around there yourself, so any argument you seem to make is pretty much null and void.....just like the importance of these forums to a lot of people that used to consider them so.... Go piss up a rope, asshole... And you wonder why HC would want to run off such a fine contribution as this? If you'd like to continue your parade of insults, go ahead...take a number, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators justcrash Posted May 9, 2010 Moderators Share Posted May 9, 2010 I've really tried to make 2.0 work, and I appreciate that many of you have, too. But when given a chance to compare the two forums side-by-side, it's obvious which one gives a better user experience. The current situation is clearly unacceptable. I've been working behind the scenes with Jon Chappell on presenting a solution to HC management. We think we've come up with the best one possible given the circumstances, and so do they...once the details are ironed out next week, we'll be making an announcement. I really can't say anything more right now as there are a few remaining issues that need to be resolved. But suffice it to say it's a solution that's very similar to what has been proposed many times by the HC community and the moderators, so I think this situation will be turned around, and soon. If this is really you, then and If it is not you, then Your ass is mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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