Members HanSolo Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 I sniped a black, 1993 USA Std on eZbay. Crappy out of focus pic but seller says it's nice and made in USA. I ask for the serial number and he provides it. It checks as a 1993 USA Strat made for export market. I asked for better pics and he emailed "No time, but no worries, it's the real thing and real nice." It arrives and I pick up the box and go Uh Oh, either the box is empty or I just got F'd. He shipped me a Starcaster body and an old Squier neck with a Fender decal and an amateurish serial number decal on the back. The guy put USA saddles on it and left off the high E since it doesn't align and also put USA tuners on it. Holy {censored}! We are in "negotiations" over its return and refund. I filed a PayPal claim and the seller is whining about his frozen funds and says we need to discuss and provides me his phone#. I emailed him to F-off, there is nothing to discuss, refund the full amount and I'll return the guitar. He says return it first so he make sure it's in the same condition as shipped. I replied BS, refund first. (So he can't counter claim that I sent him back a different guitar). We're at the proverbial Mexican (USA?) standoff, but at least his account is frozen. I'll shoot some pics and post the seller's name tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cortfan Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 You are in control of the deal. He's the one that screwed up. There is nothing to negotiate. Refund. Then send you postage for return if he wants it back bad enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hardtdc Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Well, just goes to show you: "it's always too good to be true". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphamarquis Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 hahah well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members McHale Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Yup. Full refund. If he wants it back, he pays return shipping. I believe PayPal will return your funds whether he cooperates or not. -Mc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blueballoon Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 {censored}ty scam is {censored}ty. The sad part is....it must work sometimes, or these dingleberries wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slashfacepalm Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Yup. Full refund. If he wants it back, he pays return shipping. I believe PayPal will return your funds whether he cooperates or not. -Mc As much as you'd like that to be, it won't happen. You have to ship it back (whether it's at your expense or not) and provide Paypal with a valid tracking number when it's in a "claim" status. I'd rather just ship it back and be out the shipping fee than the whole $381. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 This one? http://cgi.ebay.com/Standard-Black-Fender-Startocaster_W0QQitemZ250544541690QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3a559e4ffa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trollin' Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 For just that reason, I won't buy a product unless the seller provides acceptable pictures. If they say they can't get a camera to take a pic of a high dollar item, it's a scam. Seriously, if you were really selling a $700+ item, you'd borrow a camera to take pics of it if you didn't already have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 For just that reason, I won't buy a product unless the seller provides acceptable pictures. If they say they can't get a camera to take a pic of a high dollar item, it's a scam. Seriously, if you were really selling a $700+ item, you'd borrow a camera to take pics of it if you didn't already have one. Or buy a used Canon on eBay for $25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Holy Crap! Sorry to hear it Han. Hope you are able to get things worked out. What a freakin' putz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alex9152 Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Pics of the actual product? Not the postage stamp in the eBay listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riklite Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dude, the guy had 3 ebay transactions and only one (tiny) pic was posted. What did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theManfromAlabam Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 A misleading eBay auction (false listing) No returns accepted, positive feedback 100% (3) 93 USA standards have 22 medium jumbo frets...they also do not have a Vintage Style Synchronized Tremolo. Fender Transition Logo, 70's style logo? You should have consulted HCEG...We are here to contribute and help :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members derf Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Did you see where he stated that it had 21 frets? That'll be his fallback position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hecticone Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Should of seen that one coming. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benricci Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Yeah. You really should have known better on this one dude. Not to rub salt in the wound, but no pics and a description that clearly is not describing an MIA model? Come on, you're smarter than that. Lesson learned, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Just for the record, I was asking if that was the listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CTBthefourth Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 I wouldn't have bid with those small pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr_GoodBomb Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Goddamn, I like how everyone just assumes, because you were asking if that's the same auction, that it IS, in fact, the same one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Goddamn, I like how everyone just assumes, because you were asking if that's the same auction, that it IS, in fact, the same one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Fahrenheit Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 I scored a USA Strat Plus with gold lace sensors for $275. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 I don't see where it says USA in that auction. Standards are Mexican and that's what he seems to be listing. And out of his three positive feedbacks, one was actually a negative comment. You gotta be careful out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangordan Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Feedback total 5, one very negative. First thing to look at and avoid like a plague. Hope it works out in your favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 Caveat Emptor to the nth degree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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