Members A. Einstein Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 A stereo track is not always in the wanted balance. How do you balance stereo tracks in todays DAW which have only stereo faders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gubu Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Buss to dual mono. Or, Bounce to dual mono and re-import the separate L+R files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members techristian Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Pan everything to CENTER? DUH? or export to mono file. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Split to mono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Channel Tools in Sonar. Dual Pan in Studio One Pro. Move closer to the other speaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Move your chair over a bit. [edit] rats, I see Craig beat me to it.... everyone's a comedian... nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted October 4, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 . Move closer to the other speaker Anyone knows where to buy motorized chairs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 A stereo track is not always in the wanted balance.How do you balance stereo tracks in todays DAW which have only stereo faders? Well first you check to see if the channels levels of the stereo track are even according to the meters. If they are, then its a matter of playback speaker position. If they arent, most daws have a stereo balance pan adjust on the mixer strip. You can also split the stereo track to two mono tracks. If I have an unbalanced stereo track I use a plugin in my Waves bundle called S1 which will allow you to adjust balance, position and stereo width. There are many free stereo balancing tools you can use the gain on either track. I've seen plenty of simular free plugins on the KVR site and they seem to work the same. I have to pay attention to my meters because my right ear is a little weak. Too many years of playing with a drummer chrashing his cymbals in my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Philter Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 In Pro Tools you can split a stereo track into two mono tracks in one move. Or you can throw up one of a bazillion plug ins with a trim setting, unlink the two channels, and tweak to your heart's content. Or you could destructively normalize from the audiosuite menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted October 4, 2011 Moderators Share Posted October 4, 2011 Anyone knows where to buy motorized chairs? Watch out for the autopan chair. It sounds like a great idea but I get quesy... I just use the pan / balance controls in Pro Tools. Sometimes that doesn't quite get, then I'll split to mono mention but Ken above. Oh, and sometimes the Waves S1 can get an interesting take on balancing a stereo file over to one side more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted October 4, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 I don't want to pan anything, only balance the left and right channel, best with L+R channel on seperate faders as with a console, or a simple plug where I can lower, or raise the level of the two channels seperately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted October 4, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 In Pro Tools you can split a stereo track into two mono tracks in one move. so an interleaved stereo track divides at click of a button to two faders? you pan the two faders hard left and right and then simply balance the level of the interleaved track with the faders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Everyone has given you the common options used. Is extremely simple to do on most daws. Read your manual or help files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Philter Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 so an interleaved stereo track divides at click of a button to two faders? you pan the two faders hard left and right and then simply balance the level of the interleaved track with the faders? Yes, kind of. Pro Tools doesn't even use interleaved stereo files- all audio files in Pro Tools are mono, regardless of what kind of track you choose. If you import a stereo WAV file into Pro Tools, it will be converted into two mono files for playback in the Pro Tools mix engine. For a long time there were no stereo tracks at all in Pro Tools and you would just group together two mono tracks when you wanted a "stereo" track. Nothing precludes you from continuing to work that way. Also many of the free plugins that come with Pro Tools have trim faders that can be used on a per-channel basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zooey Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Don't you guys ever get tired of getting trolled by the same guy again and again and again and again and again? And again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted October 4, 2011 Moderators Share Posted October 4, 2011 Don't you guys ever get tired of getting trolled by the same guy again and again and again and again and again? And again? Well ok then. How silly of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Huh? Posted October 4, 2011 Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 Don't you guys ever get tired of getting panned by the same troll........Lt again and Rt again and Lt again and Rt again and Lt again? And Rt again?:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted October 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2011 Philter, thanks for the ProTool post. All that balancing stereo tracks in Nuendo is way to slow of a workflow. And the old Logic where you can split a stereo fader into two fader with one click on in the stereo fader, that software is just to old to work with, doesn't have the latest plug-in standards. Importing the L+R channel of a stereo track on two fader as disconnected single channel file, that would end up in a huge mess during editing, except the two single channels can be linked and then moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted October 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2011 Btw, it's somewhat fun how the resident hobbyist level stereo tracks with Pan Knobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffLearman Posted October 5, 2011 Members Share Posted October 5, 2011 I use the "balance" knob. It looks just like a "pan" knob, but works by fading the left or right channel, same as the "balance" knob on a home stereo, and same as splitting the track into two mono tracks, panning wide apart, and drawing back one fader or the other. Simple problem, simple solution. (Yes, it can get complicated because different people like different balance laws, e.g., constant power, constant volume when summed to mono, etc., etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted October 5, 2011 Members Share Posted October 5, 2011 Move closer to the other speaker Alternately, you could move the other speaker farther back; either way you get the benefit of the Haas Effect. I could never figure out why Sonar decided on single pan controls when they introduced stereo tracks. I suppose the addition of the Channel Tools module was a way to maintain backward compatibility -- and it's certainly deeply appreciated, I always groan when I read tales of woe from those on other platforms who are left behind or cut off from old material by lack of such backward compatibility -- still, if they'd done it right in the first place (individual pans for each channel)... The Channel Tools utility is very handy and, if it doesn't make up for the lack of proper separate pans for the track 'halves' for such a long time, it's sure nice to have now. (Previously, I used the Moneo plugin for full control of panning in stereo tracks. Of course, it doesn't have a M/S matrix, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted October 5, 2011 Moderators Share Posted October 5, 2011 Btw, it's somewhat fun how the resident hobbyist level stereo tracks with Pan Knobs. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members roomjello Posted October 5, 2011 Members Share Posted October 5, 2011 What? Seems he thinks he knows something special. Why not go ahead and explain the difference to us Albert.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted October 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2011 Seems he thinks he knows something special.Why not go ahead and explain the difference to us Albert.... ... and if i would tell, then you would anyway say you knew all that already, hee hee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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