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  1. I use drum machines to sound like drum machines. I'm no good at programming real drum parts anyway so I don't try to make it be something it's not. My only hardware drum machine at the moment is a Roland R8 that I like because it has 8 analog outputs. Mostly I use VIs or sample packs in Ableton Live's Drum Rack now, or my own one hit samples I have collected or made over the years. This thing is pretty cool: http://www.soniccouture.com/en/products/27-electronica/g58-electro-acoustic/
  2. Beethoven's Pathetique sonota is ruined for me because I hear Billy Joel lyrics over it now.
  3. I think Ice Ice Baby is an actual sample, so he was sunk from the beginning. He probably gave up songwriting credit because he had no leverage. I don't know if a jury in 1990 would have necessarily found Ice Ice Baby to be a copy of Under Pressure. Same story with the Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony." Nobody really thinks it is a copy of "The Last Time." Songwriting credit was agreed to as part of an out of court settlement.
  4. Since there are no similarities of lyrics or melody, the claim rests entirely on the instrumental track. There's a descending, staccato synth part that is similar in both songs. Though as many have pointed out, the Art of Noise did that in "Moments in Love" over 30 years ago. I bet that the jury was also influenced by the shout out at the beginning of the song where Juicy J. says, "you know what it is." It's really skimpy evidence of copying. I wonder if other hip hop, dance and electronica producers are salivating now at what else might be copyrightable. Like, could Diplo sue anyone who creates an instrumental track that contains a distorted kick drum playing the bass line, a "drop" between the transition between verse and chorus, and a monophonic synth sound that sounds like a vocal sample?
  5. It was never just about the drum beat. Here's a description of what the expert witness testified to: https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8522201/katy-perry-dark-horse-trial-musicologist-backs-up-copyright-claim This is the same kind of thing that we saw with Blurred Lines. The jury got to hear two productions that sounded similar, then an expert witness came in and pointed out all the little similarities that by themselves should not even be considered copyrightable. The Billboard article uses the word "beat" to refer to the whole track, not the drum beat. Probably because that's the terminology that was used at trial.
  6. I derailed the thread with my speculation about sampling. I was thrown by the CNN article that says they "used the underlying beat." A "beat" in hip hop is the instrumental backing track.
  7. Except that "beat" doesn't mean "beat" for purposes of hip hop. It means everything in the song that is not rapping.
  8. Yeah, you're right. The claim was infringement of the composition. This looks a lot like the Blurred Lines verdict. I don't think the two compositions are close enough to say that one is a copy of the other. The similarities are a similar sparseness of production, the drum pattern, a keyboard part that alternates between two half tones, and Juicy J. saying "you know who it is."
  9. The Sesame Street episode is banned? I watched that on PBS with my kids! Anywho, for purposes of rap music, "beat" doesn't mean the drums or percussion. It means the entire instrumental track. If Katy Perry's producers used the actual sound recording of that beat without a license, then I am not surprised at the verdict. That's an easier case to make than proving Katy Perry plagiarized the composition.
  10. Assuming EHX is using its polyphonic pitch shifting platform from POG/HOG, I don't see why polyphony wouldn't be possible. Maybe they left it mono to more faithfully emulate the synths it is supposed to sound like?
  11. So jazz-rock fusion is yacht rock, as is the entire Toto and Doobie Brothers catalog. Yacht Rock seems to be a shorthand way of saying stuff from the eighties that I did not like.
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