Members Elias Graves Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 After I sprayed the primer I waited for it to dry a bit then wet sanded from 400 to 1000 grit. I spent some time with the magnifying glass looking for imperfections and working them out. I always try to remember that your next coat is only as good as your last one.I peeled all my tape back to check the lines and clean them up. Good lines don't just happen either. The tape line for the gold actually has to be moved just a hair anyway so off it came.EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 Come on, more!!!!!! Edit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 So then the gold began. Everything was going beautifully. I followed all Reranch instructions...shaking, holding the can back, light coats, heat the can, don't touch, etc...and it was looking like this.I was almost ready to quit spraying gold when disaster struck. The can, in mid pass across the body, decided it needed to puke. It splurted out a big glop right between the bridge posts. The weird thing about the gold paint is that you can not let it flow on the body. You have to almost let it drift down on the surface. Well, this glop wasn't so much a flow as a puddle. This is what it looked like when it dried.So, I stopped work to figure out what to do.EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jelloman Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 can needed more shaking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 I ended up having to do a light sand job on the whole surface, using 320 and 400 dry followed by some polishing with a cloth. This, of course, knocked all the metallic particles loose and dulled it. After this, another can of gold paint was procured and the process began again. This time, no can puking.It can't get any more gold than it is, so I'm calling it done.Tomorrow, I'll spray the clear. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jelloman Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 Glorious, EG......just beautiful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 can needed more shaking... I can't see how I could have shook it any more. The only time I wasn't shaking was when I sprayed. The bronze powder clogs spray tips a lot. My theory is, there was a buildup and it it let go. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 Glorious, EG... ...just beautiful... Thanks. I'm pretty pleased with it.EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snowaie Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 more pics of final! beautiful job man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pekelnik Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 Awesome! Was waiting for this thread to continue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 Looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whyflipoverthefrog Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 Holy crap gentlemen. This really looks awesome so far. EG, I'm glad you've got the expertise to tackle a beast project like this, and thanks for showing us the progress. You've motivated to get me back on my Xaviere strat bodywork. I'm doing the top colored and the sides/back unfinished like a goldtop, with a multicolored top to be decided later. I chose to tackle the binding problem on a strat by hand-sanding a 1/2" bevel to remove the contours of the top. I'll decide the color of the bevel, to act as a faux binding, when I pin down the top design. Carry on gents. Lovely work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hardtdc Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 Oh heck yeah, this is shaping up very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted June 5, 2010 Members Share Posted June 5, 2010 That looks pretty sweet. I can't wait to see it with the clear on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted June 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 Lookin' super sweet EG. I can't believe all the hard work you've put into this. It makes all the money I'm paying you really worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 Yep, I'm planning my retirement. As long as this is here, an update...I pulled all the tape off to clean up the line and retape for the clear. There were some blemishes along the border between the gold and the original cherry. I spent the last several days touching that up, getting that line factory perfect. So, it's all taped up now waiting for the humidity to clear out. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike Fiasco Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 How long does it have to dry before assembling? I used to use automotive paint on bicycles and I'm really heavyhanded. I remember that stuff drying for months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted June 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 How long does it have to dry before assembling? I used to use automotive paint on bicycles and I'm really heavyhanded. I remember that stuff drying for months! Your sig is total win. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike Fiasco Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 I get more pm's from that damn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted June 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 I get more pm's from that damn thing. Prolly from guitarcapo. I hear he likes Cletus pr0n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 Well, the nitro actually dries very quickly, though it remains soft for a month. The gold is a whole different story. That stuff is really fragile. They even have a label on the can: "Warning. Must be clearcoated."This gold is probably the strangest paint I've ever used. There is no pigment in the paint at all besides the bronze powder. You have to use some pretty specific techniques to get it to look like it does. Very finicky. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Cool thread, I just read the whole thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 13, 2010 Members Share Posted June 13, 2010 So I started spraying the clear. I've never had clear react quite like this before. It looks kinda funny to me.EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted June 13, 2010 Members Share Posted June 13, 2010 Your colourcoat is most likely aluminium flake pigment (exactly the same as in a silver finish) and some transparent yellow pigment to make it look like the flakes are gold coloured.It's a bit difficult to tell from the photos, but it looks like there are a couple of things that could be happening:Firstly the clearcoat could be re-dissolving the yellow pigment from the colourcoat and making it float up to the top of the clearcoat and giving a different colour appearance. Is the clear you are using compatible with the colour coat?Secondly you could have flake "stand-up":For the maximum colour effect the flake pigment should all be lying parallel to the surface of the guitar (like this: _-_--__-_-__--_)When you spray the colourcoat on as lightly as you describe, then the flake pigment will be held in random orientations (like this: -_|/-/--/-_-/|).The flakes will be in the region of about 100-150 microns diameter and so the ones that are standing on end will stick through the clearcoat which will only be 10 - 15 microns thick at the moment. As you build the clearcoat the tops of the flakes will be covered and you should be able to get a smooth finish eventually.Great thread, hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 13, 2010 Members Share Posted June 13, 2010 Gh, you're no fun. I guess you know me too well.EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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