Members JoJo68 Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Green day ain't punk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoJo68 Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Green day ain't punk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Jesus. They are as close as we get now. Punk started in the mid 70's ....Only those old timers are real punk. Green Day are arguably the 2nd wave. where is the third wave? This has all happened before, and will all happen again. This is just the current pass of the merry go round. Enjoy it, jump off, push, throw up or cry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Jesus. They are as close as we get now. Punk started in the mid 70's ....Only those old timers are real punk. Green Day are arguably the 2nd wave. where is the third wave? This has all happened before, and will all happen again. This is just the current pass of the merry go round. Enjoy it, jump off, push, throw up or cry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nxt Lvl Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Originally Posted by Tidal Rhythm Serious question: When did the term "punk" start meaning conforming to certain standards?? When a "used to be punk" band like Green Day has a bunch of apologists insisting they are still punk. Pretty ironic isn't it? I'm sorry, but when a band does broadway they have sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nxt Lvl Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Originally Posted by Tidal Rhythm Serious question: When did the term "punk" start meaning conforming to certain standards?? When a "used to be punk" band like Green Day has a bunch of apologists insisting they are still punk. Pretty ironic isn't it? I'm sorry, but when a band does broadway they have sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 You don't need to be an apologist to look at a band that plays almost exclusively punk rock to insist that they are a punk band. Just to reiterate, punk is a sub-genre - a classification - of a certain type of sound in rock music. The way the music sounds dictates the genre, not the band's involvement or lack of involvement in a Broadway musical. Look at it this way: Radiohead began their career playing rock, which sounded a lot like their peers, on Pablo Honey and The Bends. With Kid A and Amnesiac, they abandoned rock completely, and started to play what is easiest described as electronica. At that time, Radiohead was no longer a rock band, and it's tough to call them that even now. But they started as rock, and changed to something else. The music changed, therefore the genre changed. The same cannot be said for a band like Green Day. They have not stopped playing the same music they have since their inception. The only thing they added was the stage makeup. They started out as a punk band, and since they continue to play the same music, they remain a punk band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 You don't need to be an apologist to look at a band that plays almost exclusively punk rock to insist that they are a punk band. Just to reiterate, punk is a sub-genre - a classification - of a certain type of sound in rock music. The way the music sounds dictates the genre, not the band's involvement or lack of involvement in a Broadway musical. Look at it this way: Radiohead began their career playing rock, which sounded a lot like their peers, on Pablo Honey and The Bends. With Kid A and Amnesiac, they abandoned rock completely, and started to play what is easiest described as electronica. At that time, Radiohead was no longer a rock band, and it's tough to call them that even now. But they started as rock, and changed to something else. The music changed, therefore the genre changed. The same cannot be said for a band like Green Day. They have not stopped playing the same music they have since their inception. The only thing they added was the stage makeup. They started out as a punk band, and since they continue to play the same music, they remain a punk band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chadd Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 I love it when people crap on a rock or punk band for having decent songwriting chops. Bands should get better at writing hooks and appealing lyrics as they get older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chadd Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 I love it when people crap on a rock or punk band for having decent songwriting chops. Bands should get better at writing hooks and appealing lyrics as they get older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Originally Posted by kayd_mon You don't need to be an apologist to look at a band that plays almost exclusively punk rock to insist that they are a punk band. Just to reiterate, punk is a sub-genre - a classification - of a certain type of sound in rock music. The way the music sounds dictates the genre, not the band's involvement or lack of involvement in a Broadway musical. Look at it this way: Radiohead began their career playing rock, which sounded a lot like their peers, on Pablo Honey and The Bends. With Kid A and Amnesiac, they abandoned rock completely, and started to play what is easiest described as electronica. At that time, Radiohead was no longer a rock band, and it's tough to call them that even now. But they started as rock, and changed to something else. The music changed, therefore the genre changed. The same cannot be said for a band like Green Day. They have not stopped playing the same music they have since their inception. The only thing they added was the stage makeup. They started out as a punk band, and since they continue to play the same music, they remain a punk band. lol....while playing at the iHeart radio show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Originally Posted by kayd_mon You don't need to be an apologist to look at a band that plays almost exclusively punk rock to insist that they are a punk band. Just to reiterate, punk is a sub-genre - a classification - of a certain type of sound in rock music. The way the music sounds dictates the genre, not the band's involvement or lack of involvement in a Broadway musical. Look at it this way: Radiohead began their career playing rock, which sounded a lot like their peers, on Pablo Honey and The Bends. With Kid A and Amnesiac, they abandoned rock completely, and started to play what is easiest described as electronica. At that time, Radiohead was no longer a rock band, and it's tough to call them that even now. But they started as rock, and changed to something else. The music changed, therefore the genre changed. The same cannot be said for a band like Green Day. They have not stopped playing the same music they have since their inception. The only thing they added was the stage makeup. They started out as a punk band, and since they continue to play the same music, they remain a punk band. lol....while playing at the iHeart radio show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 I had less respect for Green Day when they were relevant than I do for Justin Beiber. Beiber isn't trying to be something that he's not, at least. We know that he's a pop star, and he knows that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 I had less respect for Green Day when they were relevant than I do for Justin Beiber. Beiber isn't trying to be something that he's not, at least. We know that he's a pop star, and he knows that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 BTW, punk was never a genre. Do the Talking Heads, Patti Smith, and the Ramones sound the same? No, yet they were all punk. It was an attitude, not a sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 BTW, punk was never a genre. Do the Talking Heads, Patti Smith, and the Ramones sound the same? No, yet they were all punk. It was an attitude, not a sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 I think its silly when people expect the sound of an artists music to dictate how they act and behave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 I think its silly when people expect the sound of an artists music to dictate how they act and behave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omni Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Green Day= Cry baby millionaires.,they have lost touch in the champagne and caviar world they live in just like Metallica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omni Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Green Day= Cry baby millionaires.,they have lost touch in the champagne and caviar world they live in just like Metallica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratGuy22 Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Originally Posted by HP Hovercraft Their set got cut by 20 minutes (almost in half). I'd be pissed. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratGuy22 Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Originally Posted by HP Hovercraft Their set got cut by 20 minutes (almost in half). I'd be pissed. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Bucksstudent BTW, punk was never a genre. Do the Talking Heads, Patti Smith, and the Ramones sound the same? No, yet they were all punk. It was an attitude, not a sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3coSfks4rQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted September 27, 2012 Members Share Posted September 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Bucksstudent BTW, punk was never a genre. Do the Talking Heads, Patti Smith, and the Ramones sound the same? No, yet they were all punk. It was an attitude, not a sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 27, 2012 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Bucksstudent BTW, punk was never a genre. Do the Talking Heads, Patti Smith, and the Ramones sound the same? No, yet they were all punk. It was an attitude, not a sound. This thread needs Charles Shaar Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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