Members JoJo68 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by mrbrown49 I'm sure 99% of us would jump at the chance to play a "{censored}ty POP fest", myself included. I didn't say anything to the contrary. I'd play it too if given the chance. I'd also realize that I'm playing some corporate {censored}fest where most of the performers are more interested in dancing and lip synching . Originally Posted by kayd_mon Certainly. I never understood the hate for punk bands once they become successful. It's as if they make more money than the average street-sign-holder, they get called posers, but if someone from a different genre does well, everyone's cool with it. Green Day isn't a punk band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Malcolm Ramone Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Anyone seen the Nov. GW? It has Billie on the cover, and the tagline: "Has Billie Joe Armstrong gone BONKERS?" How prophetic! I still like 'em, though it was a douchey move. They're kind of a pop punk zz top, they keep putting out decent albums (imho), and aren't doing commercials for pepsi or anything.... -Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Malcolm Ramone Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Anyone seen the Nov. GW? It has Billie on the cover, and the tagline: "Has Billie Joe Armstrong gone BONKERS?" How prophetic! I still like 'em, though it was a douchey move. They're kind of a pop punk zz top, they keep putting out decent albums (imho), and aren't doing commercials for pepsi or anything.... -Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by JoJo68 I didn't say anything to the contrary. I'd play it too if given the chance. I'd also realize that I'm playing some corporate {censored}fest where most of the performers are more interested in dancing and lip synching . Now I follow. Same here. Fame and ego definitely seem to dampen one's sense of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by JoJo68 I didn't say anything to the contrary. I'd play it too if given the chance. I'd also realize that I'm playing some corporate {censored}fest where most of the performers are more interested in dancing and lip synching . Now I follow. Same here. Fame and ego definitely seem to dampen one's sense of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by JoJo68 Green Day isn't a punk band. They started out as a punk band on Lookout records, a primarily punk-rock label, and their sound was unchanged for the first ten years of their career, even after leaving Lookout. Their current sound is barely a departure from the original, since they're still hammering out the same three-chord patterns to roughly the same rhythm. You're free to dislike their image, politics, or whatever else they've morphed into while under the spotlight, but they were punk in 1988, they were punk in 1994, and since their music hasn't really changed, they're still punk in 2012. Punk is a sub-genre of rock, and Green Day's music falls squarely into that sub-genre. The promoters of whoever just so happened to want a punk band at a pop festival, which is fine, because really, rock is just a sub-genre of pop[ular] music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by JoJo68 Green Day isn't a punk band. They started out as a punk band on Lookout records, a primarily punk-rock label, and their sound was unchanged for the first ten years of their career, even after leaving Lookout. Their current sound is barely a departure from the original, since they're still hammering out the same three-chord patterns to roughly the same rhythm. You're free to dislike their image, politics, or whatever else they've morphed into while under the spotlight, but they were punk in 1988, they were punk in 1994, and since their music hasn't really changed, they're still punk in 2012. Punk is a sub-genre of rock, and Green Day's music falls squarely into that sub-genre. The promoters of whoever just so happened to want a punk band at a pop festival, which is fine, because really, rock is just a sub-genre of pop[ular] music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Genre's are lame. Criticizing something because it doesn't completely fit a genre is lamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Genre's are lame. Criticizing something because it doesn't completely fit a genre is lamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by mrbrown49 Genre's are lame. Criticizing something because it doesn't completely fit a genre is lamer. Genres in of themselves aren't lame, They simply exist to make it easier to organize music and help people find more music they may like. What is lame is the grossly exaggerated importance many seem to attach to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by mrbrown49 Genre's are lame. Criticizing something because it doesn't completely fit a genre is lamer. Genres in of themselves aren't lame, They simply exist to make it easier to organize music and help people find more music they may like. What is lame is the grossly exaggerated importance many seem to attach to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by DarkHorseJ27 Genres in of themselves aren't lame, They simply exist to make it easier to organize music and help people find more music they may like. What is lame is the grossly exaggerated importance many seem to attach to them. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Originally Posted by DarkHorseJ27 Genres in of themselves aren't lame, They simply exist to make it easier to organize music and help people find more music they may like. What is lame is the grossly exaggerated importance many seem to attach to them. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xrleroyx Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 I would've been pissed off too. Like them or not, Green Day is/was a HUGE band. A punk rock band. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xrleroyx Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 I would've been pissed off too. Like them or not, Green Day is/was a HUGE band. A punk rock band. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tidal Rhythm Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Serious question: When did the term "punk" start meaning conforming to certain standards?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tidal Rhythm Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Serious question: When did the term "punk" start meaning conforming to certain standards?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members steve_man Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Originally Posted by xrleroyx I would've been pissed off too. Like them or not, Green Day is/was a HUGE band. A punk rock band. Good for him. I read somewhere that they were 30 minutes late getting on stage... if that's true, that makes him look like even more of a diva.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Originally Posted by xrleroyx I would've been pissed off too. Like them or not, Green Day is/was a HUGE band. A punk rock band. Good for him. I read somewhere that they were 30 minutes late getting on stage... if that's true, that makes him look like even more of a diva.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Originally Posted by steve_man I read somewhere that they were 30 minutes late getting on stage... if that's true, that makes him look like even more of a diva.... At this point I don't think there are a set of circumstances where he doesn't come off as a cry baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Originally Posted by steve_man I read somewhere that they were 30 minutes late getting on stage... if that's true, that makes him look like even more of a diva.... At this point I don't think there are a set of circumstances where he doesn't come off as a cry baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Haven't read this thread, watched video; Coolest ending ever. 50/50 staged but dun matta. Showbiz right?Busting a guitar though, unforgivable. Nobody's call. Time will show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Haven't read this thread, watched video; Coolest ending ever. 50/50 staged but dun matta. Showbiz right?Busting a guitar though, unforgivable. Nobody's call. Time will show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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