Members Bucksstudent Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by jrockbridge If a person dislikes legato but loves squealies, they are likely a Zakk Wylde fanboy or Zakk Wylde himself. Too much of any one technique can be annoying. For example, Wyldes overuse of squealies. Legato technique has been used well by many legendary guitar players. As long as it's done tastefully, it works. I wish players would put more emphasis on composition and song writing. Technique won't save lousy songs IMO. WTF is with all the Zakk Wylde hate on here? He's not my favorite player of all time, but I love his music. He most certainly does use legato, though. Some of his best licks have swift hammer/pull-offs. I'll contribute to the discussion by saying that Jerry Garcia felt that hammer-ons were weak, but he liked pull-offs for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by jrockbridge If a person dislikes legato but loves squealies, they are likely a Zakk Wylde fanboy or Zakk Wylde himself. Too much of any one technique can be annoying. For example, Wyldes overuse of squealies. Legato technique has been used well by many legendary guitar players. As long as it's done tastefully, it works. I wish players would put more emphasis on composition and song writing. Technique won't save lousy songs IMO. WTF is with all the Zakk Wylde hate on here? He's not my favorite player of all time, but I love his music. He most certainly does use legato, though. Some of his best licks have swift hammer/pull-offs. I'll contribute to the discussion by saying that Jerry Garcia felt that hammer-ons were weak, but he liked pull-offs for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flatspotter Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Dudes in other forums are weak sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flatspotter Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Dudes in other forums are weak sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 zack wyldes pecs=the opposite of weak sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 zack wyldes pecs=the opposite of weak sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markdude Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 I generally think that legato lead runs sound much better than picked lead runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markdude Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 I generally think that legato lead runs sound much better than picked lead runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Flatspotter Dudes in other forums are weak sauce. Even though there are many here, HC is still the special sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Flatspotter Dudes in other forums are weak sauce. Even though there are many here, HC is still the special sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Markdude I generally think that legato lead runs sound much better than picked lead runs. Smoother for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Markdude I generally think that legato lead runs sound much better than picked lead runs. Smoother for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Bucksstudent WTF is with all the Zakk Wylde hate on here? He's not my favorite player of all time, but I love his music. He most certainly does use legato, though. Some of his best licks have swift hammer/pull-offs. I'll contribute to the discussion by saying that Jerry Garcia felt that hammer-ons were weak, but he liked pull-offs for some reason. Sorry, I don't hate the guy. In fact, I like some of his music. He's a favorite punching bag around here. My comments seemed like the kind of overgeneralized statements that would fit in with this silly subject matter. I do find Zakk's abundance of squealies annoying at times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Bucksstudent WTF is with all the Zakk Wylde hate on here? He's not my favorite player of all time, but I love his music. He most certainly does use legato, though. Some of his best licks have swift hammer/pull-offs. I'll contribute to the discussion by saying that Jerry Garcia felt that hammer-ons were weak, but he liked pull-offs for some reason. Sorry, I don't hate the guy. In fact, I like some of his music. He's a favorite punching bag around here. My comments seemed like the kind of overgeneralized statements that would fit in with this silly subject matter. I do find Zakk's abundance of squealies annoying at times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members virtuzoso Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 1. This is a stupid and pointless poll and we are all dumber for having read it.2. "weak sauce".3. Protoge is misspelled. It's protege. Or more accurately, prot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members virtuzoso Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 1. This is a stupid and pointless poll and we are all dumber for having read it.2. "weak sauce".3. Protoge is misspelled. It's protege. Or more accurately, prot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mockchoi Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 One thing of which I'm certain; I wouldn't enjoy listening to the guitar playing of the person that posed this axiom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mockchoi Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 One thing of which I'm certain; I wouldn't enjoy listening to the guitar playing of the person that posed this axiom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members *BLEEP* Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Some weak sauce music for your buddy in the other forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members *BLEEP* Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Some weak sauce music for your buddy in the other forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Thing is, how did that conversation go from a UFC guy talking about sucking "a dick or two" to a debate with an acoustic 80's rocker that doesn't like hammer ons?Have we found the forum zanier than Mapz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Thing is, how did that conversation go from a UFC guy talking about sucking "a dick or two" to a debate with an acoustic 80's rocker that doesn't like hammer ons?Have we found the forum zanier than Mapz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by jrockbridge Sorry, I don't hate the guy. In fact, I like some of his music. He's a favorite punching bag around here. My comments seemed like the kind of overgeneralized statements that would fit in with this silly subject matter. I do find Zakk's abundance of squealies annoying at times though. He's obsessed with John Sykes and Eddie Van Halen. If you notice, on his first album with Ozzy, No Rest for the Wicked, he didn't do it nearly as much. Ozzy has always been the one who encouraged that part of his style, and specifically wanted him to play the guitar on Down to Earth for all the "little pings." Different strokes for different folks, though. I don't pay attention to his repeated cliches (He has quite a few), unless he makes them into a whole album (Shot to Hell and Black Rain were virtually the same, and it's not coincidence that Ozzy fired him afterward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by jrockbridge Sorry, I don't hate the guy. In fact, I like some of his music. He's a favorite punching bag around here. My comments seemed like the kind of overgeneralized statements that would fit in with this silly subject matter. I do find Zakk's abundance of squealies annoying at times though. He's obsessed with John Sykes and Eddie Van Halen. If you notice, on his first album with Ozzy, No Rest for the Wicked, he didn't do it nearly as much. Ozzy has always been the one who encouraged that part of his style, and specifically wanted him to play the guitar on Down to Earth for all the "little pings." Different strokes for different folks, though. I don't pay attention to his repeated cliches (He has quite a few), unless he makes them into a whole album (Shot to Hell and Black Rain were virtually the same, and it's not coincidence that Ozzy fired him afterward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danswon Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 I saw Zakk Wylde at Download this summer. He had a prolonged solo section. While he's clearly a very talented guitarist it became pretty unbearable after about a minute. Just doing the same aimless widdling noodling squealing crap over and over. And I actually like that kind of playing usually, I love hard rock. It gave me the same kind of feeling as those horrible Vinnie Vincent Invasion solos.I don't hate him at all, I think he was great in Ozzy's band where someone could give him some direction. He needs to be directed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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