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  1. The Beach Boys = One great album The Beatles = All great albums
  2. Will be perfect for a lot of people. Others not so much. If the price is right then they will sell the hell out of them.
  3. Originally Posted by echodeluxe lol, thats a gibson. If that's true, then by your logic about 1/3 of the guitars on earth are gibsons.
  4. Originally Posted by echodeluxe lol, thats a gibson. If that's true, then by your logic about 1/3 of the guitars on earth are gibsons.
  5. Originally Posted by ben_allison That has to be the most wretched thing I've ever seen. You need to get out more.
  6. Originally Posted by ben_allison That has to be the most wretched thing I've ever seen. You need to get out more.
  7. Originally Posted by The Great Waldo Pepper Is this the only question you derived from my post? If so I am not sure I used absolute terms like "most popular" or "best", I certainly wasn't thinking in such absolutes. So I am gonna ask you to clarify what you mean by your question, please. I don't think that Hamer suffered from not being what people want. I know a lot of Hamer fans. The dislike for them suprised me. I think that they were much better guitar makers than business men.
  8. Originally Posted by The Great Waldo Pepper Is this the only question you derived from my post? If so I am not sure I used absolute terms like "most popular" or "best", I certainly wasn't thinking in such absolutes. So I am gonna ask you to clarify what you mean by your question, please. I don't think that Hamer suffered from not being what people want. I know a lot of Hamer fans. The dislike for them suprised me. I think that they were much better guitar makers than business men.
  9. Originally Posted by The Great Waldo Pepper You can make the most inexpensive, highest quality guitar in the universe and it won't matter if nobody identifies with it. After all, in order to sell very high quality, at a low cost you gotta move a lot of volume... That is tough to sustain. Very few companies round that corner as well as Fender has. Having a diverse, modular product helped them a lot. You can get a good Fender at any price point, whether it is a $300 Squier made in China or a $5K custom shop made in California. Love for Fender from consumers as a brand has seemed to soften since their filing for IPO. Selling out mentality? I dunno. Wallstreet put a big stop to that pointing out that Fender is highly levered, borrowing money to buy Kaman for $117M. Or that they were/are owed tons of money by some of their largest customers. Just seems to me Fender put the pedal to the metal in 2006 (lots of businesses did), without taking business cycles into account or the fact that maybe the future for guitars in general is not bright as we'd all wish. This may seem like an aside. But in the face of all of it, Fender hasn't cut corners on their quality, you still get a lot for what you pay, as far as I've seen. I doubt they'd be to blame for the end of Hamer or Ovation or any other Kaman company. Also, it has been 5 years. This thread is the most I've read about Hamer guitars in 20 years. Rarely is the best ever the most popular?
  10. Originally Posted by The Great Waldo Pepper You can make the most inexpensive, highest quality guitar in the universe and it won't matter if nobody identifies with it. After all, in order to sell very high quality, at a low cost you gotta move a lot of volume... That is tough to sustain. Very few companies round that corner as well as Fender has. Having a diverse, modular product helped them a lot. You can get a good Fender at any price point, whether it is a $300 Squier made in China or a $5K custom shop made in California. Love for Fender from consumers as a brand has seemed to soften since their filing for IPO. Selling out mentality? I dunno. Wallstreet put a big stop to that pointing out that Fender is highly levered, borrowing money to buy Kaman for $117M. Or that they were/are owed tons of money by some of their largest customers. Just seems to me Fender put the pedal to the metal in 2006 (lots of businesses did), without taking business cycles into account or the fact that maybe the future for guitars in general is not bright as we'd all wish. This may seem like an aside. But in the face of all of it, Fender hasn't cut corners on their quality, you still get a lot for what you pay, as far as I've seen. I doubt they'd be to blame for the end of Hamer or Ovation or any other Kaman company. Also, it has been 5 years. This thread is the most I've read about Hamer guitars in 20 years. Rarely is the best ever the most popular?
  11. Originally Posted by erksin What innovations did they bring to the table that changed the game? They may have built a nicer mousetrap, but it was still a mousetrap. And it was a mousetrap originally designed by Gibson. I've played 3. Strings running through body, brass nut and bridge and a different tone-volume layout that is great. Every product has to start somewhwre. Others take that product and improve on it. "Change" it for the better. Do you still drive a Model-T?
  12. Originally Posted by erksin What innovations did they bring to the table that changed the game? They may have built a nicer mousetrap, but it was still a mousetrap. And it was a mousetrap originally designed by Gibson. I've played 3. Strings running through body, brass nut and bridge and a different tone-volume layout that is great. Every product has to start somewhwre. Others take that product and improve on it. "Change" it for the better. Do you still drive a Model-T?
  13. Originally Posted by erksin That's not changing the game. That's playing the same game with somebody else's ball. They were not Gibsons in any way. Much better. Yep, they were game changers. How many 70' Hamers have you played?
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