Members pinkfloydcramer61 Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 I don't know if that is an entirely new phenomenon. I think there were plenty of white kids listening to Motown and R&B and black kids listening to rock in the 60s and 70s too. No argument there- but nowadays it's different IMO. It's obvious there's more intermarrying, intermingling and "hanging out" amongst different ethnicities nowadays. RE the trailer park thing, it's hard not to do all the above when families are jammed up right next to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ggm1960 Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 I'm always amazed by the number of requests we get for Guitar Town I love that song and used to do it. Trouble with it is that to do it right I had to tune the low E to D and the A to G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkfloydcramer61 Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 When I first heard Guitar Town it was a breath of fresh air soundwise- the Duane Eddy guitar with Hammond organ on top. It was similar in that regard to when I first became aware of Willie Nelson singing "All Of Me"- a different kind of raw, stripped-down instrumentation that really stood out.Copperhead Road is bad-ass, too, although I associate it with fat people line dancing in clubs, competing to see who can kick the highest- kind of like the animated dancing pig chorus line in "Hee Haw" but without any grace or rhythm. I never have found a suitable bagpipe synth sound for that one, either, although Roland seemed to do it better than Yamaha. Plus the drummer never mic'ed his kick with any depth, or triggered a good deep sample, so I always thought "what's the point?"One time my road band was rehearsing that song at a soundcheck at a nice club that had a huge sound system, and the sound man got an idea- asked me to hold down a low synth note during the "still can hear that rumbling sound" words in the verse, and he would do the rest. Every time we played CR that week, he cranked it up in the subs so much that the club literally shook. Snake Oil is one of my favorite SE songs, with it's barrelhouse piano (Matt Rollings) and GREAT Reggie Young guitar playing. It's also great political commentary, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 When I first heard Guitar Town it was a breath of fresh air soundwise- the Duane Eddy guitar with Hammond organ on top. It was similar in that regard to when I first became aware of Willie Nelson singing "All Of Me"- a different kind of raw, stripped-down instrumentation that really stood out. Copperhead Road is bad-ass, too, although I associate it with fat people line dancing in clubs, competing to see who can kick the highest- kind of like the animated dancing pig chorus line in "Hee Haw" but without any grace or rhythm. I never have found a suitable bagpipe synth sound for that one, either, although Roland seemed to do it better than Yamaha. Plus the drummer never mic'ed his kick with any depth, or triggered a good deep sample, so I always thought "what's the point?" One time my road band was rehearsing that song at a soundcheck at a nice club that had a huge sound system, and the sound man got an idea- asked me to hold down a low synth note during the "still can hear that rumbling sound" words in the verse, and he would do the rest. Every time we played CR that week, he cranked it up in the subs so much that the club literally shook. Snake Oil is one of my favorite SE songs, with it's barrelhouse piano (Matt Rollings) and GREAT Reggie Young guitar playing. It's also great political commentary, IMO. never thought of copper head road as line dance music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkfloydcramer61 Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 Meaning you probably haven't gigged too much at line-dance clubs. Just about all country dance clubs have at least a handful of people who can make up a line dance to ANYTHING. Which, for some reason, always pissed me off. I always wanted my bands to learn "The Crunge" (Zeppelin) or something, just to trip those mother{censored}ers up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 Meaning you probably haven't gigged too much at line-dance clubs. Just about all country dance clubs have at least a handful of people who can make up a line dance to ANYTHING. Which, for some reason, always pissed me off. I always wanted my bands to learn "The Crunge" (Zeppelin) or something, just to trip those mother{censored}ers up. True ,, we see a little bit of that,, but copper head road is not really a good line dance song. Do you play in a country band? We play thishttp://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=screw+you+we+are+from+texas&mid=9ADF16EC83B21A4B4B7B9ADF16EC83B21A4B4B7B&view=detail&FORM=VIRE5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 I love Steve Earle, but never saw him as dance music nor as an alternative to playing classic (70s and earlier) country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 I love Steve Earle, but never saw him as dance music nor as an alternative to playing classic (70s and earlier) country. steve earl is what I consider songwriter stuff, as is ray wiley hubbard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 steve earl is what I consider songwriter stuff, as is ray wiley hubbard. Yeah. When he first hit the scene with Guitar Town and Copperhead Road he sort of forshadowed the cross between Modern Country and Classic Rock. Radio didn't know what to do with him. I remember I was working for Tower at the time and we didn't know what section of the store to put him in. I hear stuff like "Copperhead Road" on the radio much more now than I did back then. I think he was really ahead of his time in that regard. Great songwriter. My favorite album of his is "I Feel Alright". Pretty dark, but great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 Meaning you probably haven't gigged too much at line-dance clubs. Just about all country dance clubs have at least a handful of people who can make up a line dance to ANYTHING. Which, for some reason, always pissed me off. I always wanted my bands to learn "The Crunge" (Zeppelin) or something, just to trip those mother{censored}ers up. People who want to dance a certain dance will find a way. Same with the old folks that want to swing. They'll do it to anything with a reasonably close beat and tempo. Or even half-tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 one of the best "line dance" songs I've ever played is DOWN ON THE CORNER. Lots of 20-somethings have used that song to line dance at our gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 steve earl is what I consider songwriter stuff, as is ray wiley hubbard.yes, but it is also real and naked like classic country and outlaw country, unlike the modernized studio crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chicken Monkey Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 We've got a couple of Steve Earle songs in our set, we love 'em but they don't really have much impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 We've got a couple of Steve Earle songs in our set, we love 'em but they don't really have much impact.we get lotsa love from the under 30 crowd with Copperhead Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkfloydcramer61 Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 I remember Steve Earle came out about the same time as Dwight Yoakim, both were considered to be part of a country "reset" after the pop/R&B country of the 80's, and also that they were competitors and may have had a personal rivalry (Earle is said to have scribbled "Dwight Yoakim eats sushi" on an elevator in Nashville). RE line dancing, I saw more of it than I cared to while on the country dance club circuit '94-'97. And when playing in a honkytonk house band off and on from '99-'06, even more- where CH was one of the most popular line-dance songs. But the first time I ever saw line dancing, it was done at an all-black club (believe it was named "Silks") on Medgar Evers Blvd in Jackson MS, NYE '92, back when I played in the King Edward Blues Band.@T-bone: I'm in a band that does new country, outlaw country, lotta Southern rock and classic rock. But we're not REALLY a country band, because we don't have a fiddle or steel- just a full-time acoustic player, piano, harmonica, and electric git-fiddle. Kind of like that non-country band of Willie Nelson's . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 I remember Steve Earle came out about the same time as Dwight Yoakim, both were considered to be part of a country "reset" after the pop/R&B country of the 80's, and also that they were competitors and may have had a personal rivalry (Earle is said to have scribbled "Dwight Yoakim eats sushi" on an elevator in Nashville). I dunno. Maybe. I never really considered them very similar even though they came on the scene around the same time. (Earle had been writing songs for others long before he started recording, though.) Yoakam came out of LA after not having any luck in Nashville and, while being more of a direct throwback to the 50s/60s country sound, he built his following with a lot of the hipster scene there. I don't know how much they would have even crossed paths, although I don't doubt Dwight likes sushi. Earle was always off doing much more his own thing. Including a lot of heroin. And pissing off a lot of country fans by being an outspoken "radical" liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members ChordGirl Posted December 5, 2011 Members Share Posted December 5, 2011 And what IS your market? You know, Waylon Jennings, Wilie Nelson, Glen Campbell, Johnny Cash, Loretta Lynn... whatever. Though I guess I'm thinking more "Outlaw" than "Nashville". That's pretty much all we do, minus the Glen Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted December 5, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2011 That's pretty much all we do, minus the Glen Campbell. Tell me more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 5, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2011 That's pretty much all we do, minus the Glen Campbell. Work up Wichita Lineman and Galveston!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted December 5, 2011 Members Share Posted December 5, 2011 we added fast train to georga to the show. great song to really crank up tight. Opened with it twice this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted December 5, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted December 5, 2011 Wichita Lineman The solo HAS to be played on a baritone guitar though. They should fine you if you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ggm1960 Posted December 5, 2011 Members Share Posted December 5, 2011 Work up Wichita Lineman and Galveston!!! This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted December 5, 2011 Members Share Posted December 5, 2011 we only do glens stuff by request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WaterMoc Posted December 5, 2011 Members Share Posted December 5, 2011 we get lotsa love from the under 30 crowd with Copperhead Road. Don't the first couple verses throw the dancers for a loop (if they don't already line dance to it)?It seems to sound "slow" to the unsuspecting and it takes half the song before they dance. The halftime thing seems to throw off unsophisticated dancers anyway, but country players love it and keep cranking out more of them. Guitar Town, OTOH, gets them up right away. What a great song..I wish one of the guys in my band did that one. It went over great with my last band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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