Members Tomm Williams Posted December 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 The DCM112 looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted December 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 The DCM112 looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Tomm Williams Very interesting. Can you make any comparisons of sound? Better, worse or equal to say JRX? Andy has some samples of the X models, and I believe he's made some comparisons. I'll leave the sound comparison judgments & opinions to others.I've mixed Cliff's band while they were using his tower rig, and I say that system is difficult to compare to anything I've worked with in the past. Those types of tower systems (there's others on the market as well) seem to be a critter all unto their own. Specifically striking is how they perform in a lively room, being: "amazing". One of the pictures I posted in this thread of Cliff's tower rig was taken in a dome (Quonset hut style) construction gym... which I've been in... absolutely one of the worst acoustical environments imaginable (I'd think)... like if you listen close enough, you can still hear every sound that was ever made in that room Anyhoo... that tower rig actually sounded good in that room, which up-until that experience, nothing was the only thing that I could imagine would even be palatable in that room... i.e.: a room that's an example of the ultimate diminished point of return in less being more. It leads me to consider the value of finesse over brute strength.The one draw-back to the tower rigs I see is I'm of the impression they do have a glass ceiling, where if more is needed, there's only one way, and that's up, and you can only go up so-far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Tomm Williams Very interesting. Can you make any comparisons of sound? Better, worse or equal to say JRX? Andy has some samples of the X models, and I believe he's made some comparisons. I'll leave the sound comparison judgments & opinions to others.I've mixed Cliff's band while they were using his tower rig, and I say that system is difficult to compare to anything I've worked with in the past. Those types of tower systems (there's others on the market as well) seem to be a critter all unto their own. Specifically striking is how they perform in a lively room, being: "amazing". One of the pictures I posted in this thread of Cliff's tower rig was taken in a dome (Quonset hut style) construction gym... which I've been in... absolutely one of the worst acoustical environments imaginable (I'd think)... like if you listen close enough, you can still hear every sound that was ever made in that room Anyhoo... that tower rig actually sounded good in that room, which up-until that experience, nothing was the only thing that I could imagine would even be palatable in that room... i.e.: a room that's an example of the ultimate diminished point of return in less being more. It leads me to consider the value of finesse over brute strength.The one draw-back to the tower rigs I see is I'm of the impression they do have a glass ceiling, where if more is needed, there's only one way, and that's up, and you can only go up so-far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 I ran all 3 models through a battery of tests, it's a good speaker for many applications. Excellent cosmetics, nice fit and finish, pretty good sounding boxes (very middle of the road, similar to the MRX-500 series), the only real drawback IMO is that these current models are made of MDF which makes them heavier and more fragile than I would like to see. Then again, if that's not an issue for you, it's hard to beat for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 I ran all 3 models through a battery of tests, it's a good speaker for many applications. Excellent cosmetics, nice fit and finish, pretty good sounding boxes (very middle of the road, similar to the MRX-500 series), the only real drawback IMO is that these current models are made of MDF which makes them heavier and more fragile than I would like to see. Then again, if that's not an issue for you, it's hard to beat for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted December 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by agedhorse I ran all 3 models through a battery of tests, it's a good speaker for many applications. Excellent cosmetics, nice fit and finish, pretty good sounding boxes (very middle of the road, similar to the MRX-500 series), the only real drawback IMO is that these current models are made of MDF which makes them heavier and more fragile than I would like to see. Then again, if that's not an issue for you, it's hard to beat for the price. This statement just pushed me real close to pulling the trigger. I was considering some used MRX 512's (was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted December 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by agedhorse I ran all 3 models through a battery of tests, it's a good speaker for many applications. Excellent cosmetics, nice fit and finish, pretty good sounding boxes (very middle of the road, similar to the MRX-500 series), the only real drawback IMO is that these current models are made of MDF which makes them heavier and more fragile than I would like to see. Then again, if that's not an issue for you, it's hard to beat for the price. This statement just pushed me real close to pulling the trigger. I was considering some used MRX 512's (was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted December 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Are those fly points I see in the photo's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted December 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Are those fly points I see in the photo's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by Tomm Williams Are those fly points I see in the photo's? I would suggest that with any MDF cabinets, anything resembling fly points are simply cosmetic in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by Tomm Williams Are those fly points I see in the photo's? I would suggest that with any MDF cabinets, anything resembling fly points are simply cosmetic in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dookietwo Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 http://www.audiopile.net/products/Sp...12_INSIDES.jpg Looking at the crossover there seems to be 2 light bulbs to wick off the power should too much be applied to the boxes. Are they soldered into place or can they be replaced in the field? One looks like it can be unplugged but with the other one its hard to tell. Bulb type? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dookietwo Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 http://www.audiopile.net/products/Sp...12_INSIDES.jpg Looking at the crossover there seems to be 2 light bulbs to wick off the power should too much be applied to the boxes. Are they soldered into place or can they be replaced in the field? One looks like it can be unplugged but with the other one its hard to tell. Bulb type? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by Unalaska I like the AD6800 amp, neat line module too. linkie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by Unalaska I like the AD6800 amp, neat line module too. linkie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 One bulb is a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 One bulb is a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by agedhorse I would suggest that with any MDF cabinets, anything resembling fly points are simply cosmetic in nature. I agree, thus my removal of any and everything spec-wise on the cutsheets concerned with the seeming fly point resembling doo-dads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by agedhorse I would suggest that with any MDF cabinets, anything resembling fly points are simply cosmetic in nature. I agree, thus my removal of any and everything spec-wise on the cutsheets concerned with the seeming fly point resembling doo-dads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Might want to mention what they are made out of - it always seems like a "cover up" when they are MDF and it isn't mentioned.That tower system looks pretty interesting - Bose on steroids ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Might want to mention what they are made out of - it always seems like a "cover up" when they are MDF and it isn't mentioned.That tower system looks pretty interesting - Bose on steroids ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by RoadRanger Might want to mention what they are made out of - it always seems like a "cover up" when they are MDF and it isn't mentioned. I beg to differ. The cabinet construction, being MDF, is clearly listed under the specs on my website cut sheets, under cabinet construction: MDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by RoadRanger Might want to mention what they are made out of - it always seems like a "cover up" when they are MDF and it isn't mentioned. I beg to differ. The cabinet construction, being MDF, is clearly listed under the specs on my website cut sheets, under cabinet construction: MDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by W. M. Hellinger I beg to differ. The cabinet construction, being MDF, is clearly listed under the specs on my website cut sheets, under cabinet construction: MDF Oops, I didn't see that the first time I looked on your website. Sorry if I seemed critical of them - just trying to mention what would scare me off if I didn't "know" you . They seem to be a great alternative to the Yamaha Club series - specs look similar at a much lower price . Any chance of a powered version? I'm probably missing it also - but what is the diameter of the HF driver diaphragms ? LF Driver voice coils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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