Members ido1957 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Members Share Posted September 4, 2014 Big Bends Nut Sauce $17.50Cork Grease - $1.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 4, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 4, 2014 Not quite. If the nut is made of a material that's too soft, there's still the possibility of the string windings digging into it. You can solve the problem with lubricant, different strings, or a harder nut, but simply cutting the slots properly won't necessarily eliminate the problem by itself. It shouldn't be made with a material that's "too soft", and if you do lubricate a cutting edge on a material that too soft you'll accelerate the cutting process, it's what all machine tools rely on to cut. The nut should be the right material, cut correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted September 4, 2014 Members Share Posted September 4, 2014 Plug in a tuner, tune a string to pitch, then press the string down between the nut and tuners. If it returns back to pitch instantly, you're in good shape and the nut isn't grabbing the string. If you push the string down and the string either comes back to pitch slowly or fails to return to pitch the nut is not allowing the string to return to pitch. It can happen on any guitar and any kind of nut material. They all eventually get some grooves in them and need polishing. Usually you can just take your old strings and draw then through the nut and smooth them out. even with a perfectly cut nut you can still have some grabbing depending on how much surface area the bottom of the string rests on, the angle of the cut vs the string break away angle and the downward pressure of the string. A slight breakaway angle has little pressure on the nut and the string is unlikely to grip on the nut. Other strings like the low E on a Strat has a sharper breakaway angle so its going to have allot more downward pressure. Since the low E also has more tension its more likely to return to pitch so it may not have issues even if it has wear. The test with the meter is the proof you need. If you put on a new set and the strings are properly stretched, and you do the test and they come back in tune, then there's no sense in lubing the nut. Excess lube deadens the string so why use it if you're OK. In other cases, like I said with a whammy bar, the strings are constantly moving over the nut. Lube will help to get rid of tuning issues and minimize wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted September 4, 2014 Members Share Posted September 4, 2014 It shouldn't be made with a material that's "too soft". . . . . . The nut should be the right material, cut correctly But we don't live in the world of "should be," now do we? Plastic nuts are indeed "too soft." The nut on my 12-string acoustic has always had that problem from day one. The "Ivorex II" nut on my "good" Ibanez acoustic is also too soft. As I mentioned previously, I solved the problem there by changing from phosphor bronze strings to 80/20's. If a too-soft nut is lubricated, yes, it will eventually--over a period of years--wear out. But in the meantime, the strings don't bind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thundarr Posted September 5, 2014 Members Share Posted September 5, 2014 I find that I lubrication isn't necessary if you widen the string slots a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ancient Mariner Posted September 6, 2014 Members Share Posted September 6, 2014 Pencil lead on everything, whether it needs it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted September 7, 2014 Members Share Posted September 7, 2014 Big Bends Nut Sauce. .... Me too. It's a bit over priced, but you use so little of it, and it's such a convenient application device that I think it's worth the price of admission and it stores nicely in my guitar tune-up case. Which by the way, I'm now using one of these for my guitar work station/tool storage. http://www.zzounds.com/item--GNDGMT003B I used to use one of those foam rubber mats with the neck support, but after some years, the foam rubber was crumbling leaving behind black residue whenever I use it. This Grundorf system is slightly more precarious to use, but I do like that I can store all of my tune up tool in the compartments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I've got a tube of liquid PTFE (Teflon) that I purchased years ago at Radio Shack. That's what I use... but I think it's discontinued now. That's too bad - it works great! Fortunately a little goes a long way, and there's tons of it left in the tube... but once it's gone, I'm not sure what I'll replace it with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humbuckerstrat Posted September 9, 2014 Members Share Posted September 9, 2014 Me too. It's a bit over priced, but you use so little of it, and it's such a convenient application device that I think it's worth the price of admission and it stores nicely in my guitar tune-up case. Which by the way, I'm now using one of these for my guitar work station/tool storage. http://www.zzounds.com/item--GNDGMT003B I used to use one of those foam rubber mats with the neck support, but after some years, the foam rubber was crumbling leaving behind black residue whenever I use it. This Grundorf system is slightly more precarious to use, but I do like that I can store all of my tune up tool in the compartments. Yeah, I have a "syringe" of BBNS that I bought years ago. I wanted to put their sticker on another one of my guitars, so I bought another syringe of BBNS just for the sticker. I'm still using the first BBNS I bought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted September 9, 2014 Members Share Posted September 9, 2014 I've got a tube of liquid PTFE (Teflon) that I purchased years ago at Radio Shack. That's what I use... I have a tube of what I'm pretty sure is powdered Teflon that I bought from a local hardware store. Unfortunately, I never had much luck with it. I couldn't keep it in the nut slot where it was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gdsmithtx Posted September 9, 2014 Members Share Posted September 9, 2014 A needle oiler from my toolbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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