Members zachary vex Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 8/12 perfect, 12/12 relative (I did relative first) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joey O Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 You're a bastard.Love you too. It's ok, i still can't play for {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mitchell? Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 10/12 on relative, 9/12 on perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachary vex Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 12/12 on both easily this time, doing relative first. In all my years in the music business, I've only met two people in person (until Phil) who had perfect pitch. One was in a hardcore punk band and he used to tune everybody up (they dropped to c or b as I recall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sfarfsky Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Do flangers bug the {censored} out of people with perfect pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oinkbanana Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 not at all. but vibrato does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sfarfsky Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 I thought the flanger changes the pitch. so u dudes don't like vibrato and other pitch changing fx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MacBradley Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 I know a bunch of people with perfect pitch and none of them are very good musicians Don't be too hard on yourself now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 just because it has been found to be tied with genes, does NOT discount the fact that it can be learned. This argument of genetic vs learned is not mutually exclusive in the least. I don't know why you're rolling your eyes at me... If you read my earlier posts, I clearly state that I have NO idea if it can be learned or not - I can only recount my own personal experiences, which suggest it being, for me at least, something I was born with as opposed to something I "learned". My comments regarding genetics research and research suggesting it may, in many cases, be an innate characteristic as opposed to a learned skill, were merely to point out to someone else (who was taking the "it's always a learned skill" position) that there is no conclusive "proof" of it being either innate or learned, and no current scientific consensus on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 All Done! - you got 11 of 12 correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members attic Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 0/12 on the original test. 12/12 on the relative test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 not at all. but vibrato does. Nope - neither one really bothers me at all.What DOES kind of get to me (at least momentarily) is songs that are recorded "in the cracks" - IOW, not in E, but not quite in F either - somewhere in between the two. I find it especially annoying when playing along to records / CDs, bcause you have to tweak the guitar's tuning to get it into line with the recording... then tweak back when the next song comes on... by the time you're done tweaking, you've missed a quarter of the song. There's a song on John McGill's album Journey From La La where we wound up varispeeding the song 50 cents sharp on the final mix to speed it up or whatever... for whatever reason, John liked it better there, so we went with it. Every time that album is being played and I have not heard it for a while, or if my iPod is in random mode and it comes on unexpectedly, I hear the first second or so of that song and it seriously "tweaks" my ear. But it's not a deal breaker for me - it just takes a moment for me to realize what's going on and mentally accept / "deal" with it. And in general, that's true of a lot of pitch and tuning related things. I know when stuff is out, and here in the studio, I'll "call" you on it if it's getting bad, but guitars in general are never really in perfect tune or intonation, so you have to be willing to accept that to a degree or perfect pitch will drive you batty.Joe Walsh does this thing when he's playing slide sometimes that I've never heard anyone else really mention, but I love it - he'll hit a note, slide up to it, and hold just shy of the note (by about 10-20 cents) and at the last instant, "snap" it up to the right pitch. If you listen to his slide solo on Victim Of Love by the Eagles at about (2:44-2:45), you can hear a somewhat exaggerated version of what I'm referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I thought the flanger changes the pitch. so u dudes don't like vibrato and other pitch changing fx? Flangers are modulated short delays in the single digit millisecond range that create comb filtering. Pitch vibrato is really something else... again, neither one really bothers me at all. I really like pitch vibrato quite a bit actually. Chorus is a similar effect, but with the original "dry" signal mixed in along with the pitch modulated signal of the vibrato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sfarfsky Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 u guys listen to eastern music at all? If you had a fretless could you play some eastern music that uses a different notes than us simpletons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lorelei Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 did you seriously just register to say that? No... I thought this was a cool forum is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 epic bumpI like how some people act like perfect pitch helps make music for some reason "hey I can define ev ery color of paint your using so I must be able to paint like matisse" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members neoflox Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 epic bump for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 look brah, you're either born with perfect pitch or you're not. You can't learn it. Can you document that? I mean - how do you know that? Even if you have had the ability to recall pitches accurately from memory, and without an outside reference for as long as you can remember, you weren't "born" with the knowledge of what the names for those pitches were - everyone with perfect pitch had to learn those terms and how to associate a certain pitch (say a sine wave at 440 Hz) that they could recall with that "name" - in this case, A above middle C. You have to learn - or give the pitches a name that you can associate them with and reference them by. That part at least is learned in some way by everyone who has perfect pitch; even if those terms are self-created. At least that's how it works for me. I have been able to recall the pitches from popular recordings from memory for as far back as I can remember. It wasn't until junior and senior high school that I learned musical theory and the official names to associate with those pitches. As to whether or not it is something that can be learned - the ability to recall pitch from memory seems to be associated with early life experiences and exposure. Some research seems to suggest that all, or nearly all children have this capability when they're very young, but due to lack of use and early association of pitches with a "label", the ability seems to be lost, or maybe misplaced is a better word - I really don't know if it can be "taught" or "learned" or not. It is somewhat like a color, in that a specific "shade" is labelled as "green" and another one as "red". This frequency is A, that one is C. It's kind of like having an audiographic memory for pitch. I can think of a popular song, and mentally "drop the needle" (hey, it was turntables back then - my mind, my imagery - deal with it ) and what I hear in my head is the song, in the original key. That was my earliest recollection of pitch recall - being a little kid and hearing someone else reference a song by singing it, and knowing "that wasn't how it went" - not because they got the words wrong, but because they were singing it in the wrong key - even though I had no idea what a "key" was at the time. But I knew what "that song" (pitch reference or "name") on the radio or record sounded like, and I could recall the pitch at will. I think like many perceptional related things, you can probably learn it in later life, but it is probably easier to learn when you're a child. But I can only speak from my own personal experience, and again, it's basically something I was born with. (Epic reiteration and jumping back in... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vidret Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 Nope - neither one really bothers me at all. What DOES kind of get to me (at least momentarily) is songs that are recorded "in the cracks" - IOW, not in E, but not quite in F either - somewhere in between the two. I find it especially annoying when playing along to records / CDs, bcause you have to tweak the guitar's tuning to get it into line with the recording... then tweak back when the next song comes on... by the time you're done tweaking, you've missed a quarter of the song. There's a song on John McGill's album Journey From La La where we wound up varispeeding the song 50 cents sharp on the final mix to speed it up or whatever... for whatever reason, John liked it better there, so we went with it. Every time that album is being played and I have not heard it for a while, or if my iPod is in random mode and it comes on unexpectedly, I hear the first second or so of that song and it seriously "tweaks" my ear. But it's not a deal breaker for me - it just takes a moment for me to realize what's going on and mentally accept / "deal" with it. And in general, that's true of a lot of pitch and tuning related things. I know when stuff is out, and here in the studio, I'll "call" you on it if it's getting bad, but guitars in general are never really in perfect tune or intonation, so you have to be willing to accept that to a degree or perfect pitch will drive you batty. Joe Walsh does this thing when he's playing slide sometimes that I've never heard anyone else really mention, but I love it - he'll hit a note, slide up to it, and hold just shy of the note (by about 10-20 cents) and at the last instant, "snap" it up to the right pitch. If you listen to his slide solo on Victim Of Love by the Eagles at about (2:44-2:45), you can hear a somewhat exaggerated version of what I'm referring to. hehehehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 i got 5/12 on the perfect pitch test. that {censored} is hard! im not gonna lie, it was mostly (all) guessing, but i guess all of my years of playing music must have had some impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RadioSilence Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 I don't have perfect pitch (1/12 on the test ) but occasionally I'll hear a note and know that it's the same note used in a specific song. For instance I'll hear a note and the melody of Here Comes The Sun will pop into my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arcaneaether Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 11/12 on the perfect pitch one. Playing the viola/violin, doing a Music degree/Masters and studying orchestra/chamber music has indeed helped, but I can't seem to pitch C#'s to save my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamesp Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 10/12 on the perfect pitch test. For good and/or ill, I've never been able to get the first five notes of "Stairway to Heaven" out of my head. IOW, I remember A, C, E, A and B. I count up or down from whichever one of them seems closest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 1/12 on perfect pitch.If they would have done it on a guitar, I know I could have done better. I'm not accustomed to the timbre of the piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted November 28, 2011 Members Share Posted November 28, 2011 yea, its easier for me with chords on guitar, esp all the open chords. i can pretty much recognize all of them in any song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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