Members Loobs Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Dunno. Did it for ten years, never got out of Michigan. I've gotten to the point where it feels like a chore to play music in front of other people, and I'm sick of chasing something that never pays off. I'm just about done with music at this point in my life. Paying off? Sounds like you were playing music for reasons other than enjoying playing music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Paying off? Sounds like you were playing music for reasons other than enjoying playing music. oh {censored} the amount of times I've tried to understand this point of view. Imagine, if you will, someone who enjoys playing music. They also enjoy living a life that isn't a constant struggle to make ends meet. They don't enjoy doing a bunch of heavy lifting loading gear in and out of clubs while being paid a pittance if anything. None of these things are mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bieke Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 GF, kids, sex, food, work, family, books, alcohol, museums, shops, cars, sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Harvester1199 Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 my health , kids and other life stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 oh {censored} the amount of times I've tried to understand this point of view.Imagine, if you will, someone who enjoys playing music.They also enjoy living a life that isn't a constant struggle to make ends meet.They don't enjoy doing a bunch of heavy lifting loading gear in and out of clubs while being paid a pittance if anything.None of these things are mutually exclusive. If you truly love playing music stuff like this isn't gonna put you off playing it. At least not in my experience. I have a regular job too though. I understand if you're trying to make it your sole means of income, most the musicians I know have a regular/flexible job that gives them a dependable income and gigs/tours using holiday time and in evenings/weekends etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sameoldbluesman Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 On Topic Thread is On Topic. 1) Work2) I'm a full time college student on top of #13) My commute4) Lack of discipline. I could make the time, but I don't. If I did, I'm sure I would feel better about myself, but I usually use that time for the rare social interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 genital fatigue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mr benn Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 work and I'm a lazy,procrastinating bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arcaneaether Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Viola playing rather than violin playing by the way, although I do dabble in the latter. I concentrate a whole lot more on this nowadays because it's so satisfying, plus orchestral playing is lots of fun.Wanting to get back into guitar (and effects) properly though, especially now that playing it tuned from the bottom in fifths (almost - C G D A E G) on the guitar seems to be very interesting, creatively.I am a Masters student in Music at uni and do work 20 hrs per week but enjoy how much I can do, music-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vinnies Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 kids and wife and job this for me too. my {censored}ing job is 80 miles from my home, so i'm wasting about 3 hours a day in the car. {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 If you truly love playing music stuff like this isn't gonna put you off playing it. At least not in my experience. I have a regular job too though. I understand if you're trying to make it your sole means of income, most the musicians I know have a regular/flexible job that gives them a dependable income and gigs/tours using holiday time and in evenings/weekends etc. pfft. It just reeks of "I love music more than you". Which may or may not be true. But in some ways I'd say the ones that realise they're just selling beer and making all their friends give money to pubs and clubs to keep them in business while simultaneously being shat on by same pubs and clubs and doing most of the work are just more clever than the ones who carry on for the love of it. That's what a lot of gigging at the level of most people here boils down to. I'm the dumbest of them all because I realise that and still do it. But if it ever does get tiresome and I stop it won't mean I love music any less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CicadaSilence Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 oh {censored} the amount of times I've tried to understand this point of view.Imagine, if you will, someone who enjoys playing music.They also enjoy living a life that isn't a constant struggle to make ends meet.They don't enjoy doing a bunch of heavy lifting loading gear in and out of clubs while being paid a pittance if anything.None of these things are mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefort_1 Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 1) work2) work-related building project3) tight monies4) sheep farm...56 mouths to feed AM and PM5) Jan's back has been fooked for 18 months; 10 lifting limit = she can't care for the animals = I do all the feedings, etc.6) forum activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrChrisos Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Nothing but myself really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jordanjordan Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Aside from work, study and a relationship, my throat has been wrecked for the last 2 months. I don't know what it is, but i lose my voice really easily and it always feels raw. Tried every sore throat remedy I can think but to no avail. I'm not a great singer anyway, but I'm kinda worried about infecting other musos. oh, and hcfx of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Aside from work, study and a relationship, my throat has been wrecked for the last 2 months. I don't know what it is, but i lose my voice really easily and it always feels raw. Tried every sore throat remedy I can think but to no avail. I'm not a great singer anyway, but I'm kinda worried about infecting other musos. Have you seen a doctor? A sore throat that takes that long to heal *can* be a sign of cancer. Amongst a great many other things you'd rather have, no doubt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jisatsu Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Mostly work and my schedule. Working graveyards it's hard to be awake when it's a decent time to play. The people who live in the duplex downstairs sleep different hours from me, so it's almost impossible for me to find a time to crank the amps up. Because of this I've been playing a ton of acoustic the last few years, but even then maybe only once a month. Hiking/backpacking/photography. I spend almost all my days off in the mountains. I've been meaning to bring a cheap acoustic with me when I'm out there, but it never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jordanjordan Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Have you seen a doctor? A sore throat that takes that long to heal *can* be a sign of cancer. Amongst a great many other things you'd rather have, no doubt... I haven't yet. My GF saw a doc today (she has had the same thing for around the same amount of time) and they think it could be glandular fever, we're waiting for test results. I should probably go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted June 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm tired of not getting paid, I'm tired of paying to play, dropping tons of money on gas, gear upkeep, etc; I'm tired of musicians, potheads that hang around musicians, stupid 4th generation grunge bands and semi-literate metalheads that a cro-magnon would be embarrassed to be seen in public with, tired of stupid drunk girls, tired of that fat old guy who wants to tell me about all the bands he roadied for/met at a bar/bought drugs for; tired of playing the same clubs/bars/stages/et al, and having nothing to show for it except tinnitus and general disenchantment with music. I don't listen to anything anymore, I don't go to shows, and I don't really play on my own unless I've got nothing else to do. It just doesn't seem important anymore. I've got plenty of other interests upon which I'd rather spend time, money, effort and energy. I enjoyed creating and playing music for years. Now I don't enjoy it anymore. Maybe I will again someday. It's cool, though. Keep throwing around rote judgements of people you don't really know. Also, this: Maaaaaan, I'm in your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members OnWingsOfLead Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm in the same boat with CicadaSilence, holding the same paddle I toured for 5 years, and eventually it does grow wearisome. Pouring money into the whole thing, when your bandmates can't/won't. I got tired of a lot of the bands we got stuck playing with. At least in the heavier music scenes, it seems like all the good/creative/engaging bands died off and got replaced by horrible breakdown laden crabcore. And for some reason, this is what a lot of the show going kids wanted to see. They don't listen to/ support the creative bands who can flat play. They'd rather hear 9 guage strings tuned to C and riffs that look like 0----0-0-0----0---0---000- on tab (6th string only) Eventually, you get to a point that even if you absolutely love it for the creative pursuit, you have to make money to move forward. I got sick of going on tours where the crowds could be 500, 200, 400, 12, 200, 5, and 3. I got sick of being ripped off by promoters who can't stick to a contract, but you don't have more than $40 in the band account and you need to drive 7 hours, so you can't really fight it. I left my band in November (that I started) and have gone through a bit of a musical cleansing. I sold off some gear, focused more on my marriage and got a job as a worship leader at a church plant and got a house. Eventually, the bassist in my old band caved and quit last month. Now we are writing and recording completely different music, hoping that if we play live again, it will be outside of the dying "heavy" music scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members LSDis4me Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yer telling me to get off the internet, aren't you. You think I should just get off the {censored}ing internet. OKAY, I'LL GET OFF THE {censored}ING INTERNET!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CicadaSilence Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Forgot this guy: "FREEBIRD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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