Members christianatl Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 So while browsing our spam thread something kind of jumped out at me. I don't think people understand what "mint" means. Should we maybe have a breakdown of terms in the thread? To me, mint means as it was the day it left the factory or builder's place of manufacture. That means no velcro, no marks, no nothing. Am I crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Matt Gnarly Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I completely agree, while hyperbole is expected on Craigslist and Kijiji, in those situations you actually get to the see pedal before committing to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by christianatl So while browsing our spam thread something kind of jumped out at me. I don't think people understand what "mint" means. Should we maybe have a breakdown of terms in the thread?To me, mint means as it was the day it left the factory or builder's place of manufacture. That means no velcro, no marks, no nothing.Am I crazy? Preach it brother. Mint means nary a mark, scratch, scuff or flaw of any kind. Straight from the factory, with tags and all the goodies, not a ding, dent, scratch, mod, or any hint of weather checking, warped plastic / pickguard, discoloration, or any of the other ravages of time, usage, accident and/or environment.If you've added velcro to the pedal, it is technically no longer "mint" - whether or not you've removed it or left it, and regardless of the rest of the condition of the pedal. At least IMHO. As a practical matter, I don't personally care either way, as long as the pedal works as it's supposed to, and isn't drastically different than what was described. In their favor, the folks in the spam thread seem to be very clear about whether or not velcro is still on the pedal, whether it's been removed, etc. - even if they're calling the pedals "mint," so to me, it's more of a technicality as opposed to a significant issue in those cases. They've disclosed the use of velcro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Rat Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 finger prints too. drives me crazy. a mint pedal shouldn't have total strangers personal imprints on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Player99 Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Genetic molecular contamination? Not mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Also of note, "looks just like this one" ought to mean that the pedal you are selling looks just like the pedal you are showing in the picture, not just like the pedal you are showing in the picture except with a label torn to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by Player99 Genetic molecular contamination?Not mint. yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goodhonk Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Unless it's from 952072, then he might literally mean, "mint". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members b_nehpets Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by Phil O'Keefe Preach it brother. Mint means nary a mark, scratch, scuff or flaw of any kind. Straight from the factory, with tags and all the goodies, not a ding, dent, scratch, mod, or any hint of weather checking, warped plastic / pickguard, discoloration, or any of the other ravages of time, usage, accident and/or environment.If you've added velcro to the pedal, it is technically no longer "mint" - whether or not you've removed it or left it, and regardless of the rest of the condition of the pedal. At least IMHO. As a practical matter, I don't personally care either way, as long as the pedal works as it's supposed to, and isn't drastically different than what was described. In their favor, the folks in the spam thread seem to be very clear about whether or not velcro is still on the pedal, whether it's been removed, etc. - even if they're calling the pedals "mint," so to me, it's more of a technicality as opposed to a significant issue in those cases. They've disclosed the use of velcro. if we were talking currency, mint means never entered into circulation... and that is where the term came from, so, i'd say, unless the manufacturer is selling it right of the line, mint is not appropriate for spam threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H.P. Lovecraft Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, I've been caught up in this too. Not a big deal but when you buy a pedal that's supposedly "mint" you don't want to scrap off cat-haired encrusted velcro and bar grunge when you get it. Maybe a number system could be in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CrystalLake Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I love the "mint, but has a surface scratch here..." descriptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arthurdent'd Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starmansam Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I'm not too keen on pedals that have been stepped on before being called mint. I want the full lifespan of the stomp switch if someone is trying to sell me a minty fresh pedal. that said, "mint" in a spam listing is a word that makes me so much less interested, as it means that the seller is looking for more money. I prefer dinged-up {censored} for cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 mint plant for salewill trade for mint pickguard... no other other mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by starmansam I'm not too keen on pedals that have been stepped on before being called mint. I want the full lifespan of the stomp switch if someone is trying to sell me a minty fresh pedal. that said, "mint" in a spam listing is a word that makes me so much less interested, as it means that the seller is looking for more money. I prefer dinged-up {censored} for cheap this man. knows how to buy used {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 My gear is so mint it could freshen your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ispunk Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I like my mints mint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tom92 Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 If it works then I couldn't careless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pewtershmit Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 My mint with Velcro description stands. Y'all can blow me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ispunk Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by tom92 If it works then I couldn't careless. Any interest in a mint Boss CE-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 As a rule of thumb I don't buy from sellers who resort to suspicious tactics to raise the price of their item. Calling a used item "mint" falls under that category. Same with refusing to post adequate pics of the actual item, or saying "it appears to be working, but the item is untested as I don't have a way to test it." I pass those by and don't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by ispunk Any interest in a mint Boss CE-3? i think that looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by King Rat finger prints too. drives me crazy. a mint pedal shouldn't have total strangers personal imprints on it. lol It's funny you mention that - I always try to wipe down review units when I repack them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woolyh Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 IMO it should mean unused condition but from experience on ebay it seems to mean cosmetic damage only : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by b_nehpets if we were talking currency, mint means never entered into circulation... and that is where the term came from, so, i'd say, unless the manufacturer is selling it right of the line, mint is not appropriate for spam threads. Elliot Easton of the Cars used to have a dead mint early 60s Burgundy Mist Strat. It had basically never been played. Still had the original hang tags on it (as put there by Fender folks in Fullerton), and even the original strings. THAT'S my definition of "dead mint" - kind of like Fender's idea of a "closet classic" - IMHO, you can have a true vintage guitar that is truly in "mint" condition. It just needs to be as flawless as the day it left Fullerton (or Kalamazoo, etc.)I've got one from my personal experience. A family in one of our neighborhoods had a son who went off to Viet Nam in the mid 1960s, and unfortunately, he never returned. He left behind a Fender Jaguar. Sunburst. Pre-CBS. Beautiful and completely flawless. This would have been back in the early or mid 1980s, when you really couldn't give offset guitars away. Anyhow, I was asked about what it was worth, had the opportunity to play it a few times. The nice folks who lost their son ended up giving it to their 13 year old grandson, who never really appreciated his late uncle's gift - he immediately proceeded to put stickers on it and generally thrashed it. Yes, life is sometimes tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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