Members NITROHOLIC Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Hasn't anyone here ever bought the store brand cereal? How about soda? Or any other store brand item for less $$.I really dont see any difference. cereal doesnt burn my {censored}ing house down k thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chromatica17 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 cereal doesnt burn my {censored}ing house down k thx. Has a Bugera?Nope. Hey I don't own one or ever will(never even played one), but I'll defend to the death the right for companies to make more affordable versions of any product. It's only been going on since well forever. While I enjoy my PNY gtx550 ti's in sli. Yep. They costed alot less than the Nvidia brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 I wouldn't buy a Bugera simply based on the fact that they're {censored}ing leeches stealing circuitry and technology from other companies. Not to be a dick or anything but you have 2 pretty blatant copies in your sig line gear wise, the Green Screamer and the Green Beret and im pretty sure Celestion and such didnt get any royalties either, some would say the exact same thing about them. The 2 Bugera's i bought, i bought because i liked how they sounded. The v5 as far as i know isnt a copy of anything and has a lot more going for it than most 5 watt tube amps and the 1960 is bassier and louder than any plexi ive ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Not to be a dick or anything but you have 2 pretty blatant copies in your sig line gear wise, the Green Screamer and the Green Beret and im pretty sure Celestion and such didnt get any royalties either, some would say the exact same thing about them.The 2 Bugera's i bought, i bought because i liked how they sounded. The v5 as far as i know isnt a copy of anything and has a lot more going for it than most 5 watt tube amps and the 1960 is bassier and louder than any plexi ive ever heard. Neither are direct copies, especially the Green Berets. The Green Screamer is based on the Tubescreamer circuit but has significant enough differences to not be a straight replica. It also is true bypass which you can't get from the Ibby version. The Green Berets are made in the USA and are also not direct copies. I prefer them to the current production Chinese Celestions which are significantly more expensive despite being made in a country with horrible wages and labor laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Neither are direct copies, especially the Green Berets. The Green Screamer is based on the Tubescreamer circuit but has significant enough differences to not be a straight replica. It also is true bypass which you can't get from the Ibby version. The Green Berets are made in the USA and are also not direct copies. I prefer them to the current production Chinese Celestions which are significantly more expensive despite being made in a country with horrible wages and labor laws. You could make the same argument about Bugera. My 1960 has an FX loop and onboard reverb, not usual fare for plexi's. The bugera 6260/333/whatever clones are now gonna have that whole tube monitoring thing and yes added reverb to the heads, plus they dont really sound the same. Sure it was underhanded to try to copy Peavey and call it something very close but Green Screamer? Green Beret? Both are cheaper copies of well known and loved products, hell WGS has pretty much made a name for themselves for their cheaper clone-ish speakers. Im not knocking WGS, hell i love the Green Beret's myself, im just saying that taking the moral high ground against the evil dastardly Bugera while playing thru companies products that are doing the same thing isnt all that logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teemuk Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 ...taking the moral high ground against the evil dastardly Bugera while playing thru companies products that are doing the same thing isnt all that logical.Since when has logic played a part in any Behringer/Bugera discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Since when has logic played a part in any Behringer/Bugera discussion? Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Now they're BETTER THAN A PLEXI!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 I just don't see the desire in owning anything they make knowing that it's horrible quality, especially when you can get used amps for the same price of their new stuff that sound better and are more robust in construction. I got my Peavey VTM 60 for $300 and my Sunn Sceptre for $400. I'm positive that they smoke any Bugera in terms of tone AND quality of construction. Also, one big difference between Behringer/Bugera and other companies who make classicly inspired units is the volume of the products that they're manufacturing. I highly doubt WGS is affecting the market for Celestions the same way Bugera is affecting the market for Peavey amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teemuk Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Used amps have no warranty. You never know what has been done to them. What if folks don't want a Sunn Sceptre or a VTM60 but something that only Bugera models offer in the price range? Decent amps sold affordably. I really don't know why so many folks get sand in their vaginas because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 BETTER TAHN PLAXY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike LX-R Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 I haven't played a Bugera, only a Baloo. Easy to find in a bear market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary666 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Now they're BETTER THAN A PLEXI!!!!! louder too. hmm, an amp louder than a Plexi, sounds reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GREC Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 I don't know why ^^ chripsullivan^^ has such a bug up his butt about Bugeras. He keeps bring up the same points over & over 'Buy a Peavey'. I remember in the 70s & 80s Peavey having not the best sounding & looking amps -plus that logo. Mr Peavey designed it on his notebook in high school - & looks like it. But that's my PERSONAL opinion. I know that Peavey thru the years has improved & made some nice sounding amps, but I personally can't get past those years of sub-par amps. I know musicians of my age that have gone thru that & have the same opinion. That's why I would never buy one. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 louder too. hmm, an amp louder than a Plexi, sounds reasonable. LOUDER TOO!!!!!!!!!!! PAGING JIMMY NAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 I don't know why ^^ chripsullivan^^ has such a bug up his butt about Bugeras. He keeps bring up the same points over & over 'Buy a Peavey'. I remember in the 70s & 80s Peavey having not the best sounding & looking amps -plus that logo. Mr Peavey designed it on his notebook in high school - & looks like it. But that's my PERSONAL opinion. I know that Peavey thru the years has improved & made some nice sounding amps, but I personally can't get past those years of sub-par amps. I know musicians of my age that have gone thru that & have the same opinion. That's why I would never buy one. But that's just me. because he's an idiot kid trying to defend his own position that he deemed ok. it's ok to use straight ripoff products, as long as it's a brand he uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members emtoth Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 To me it sounds way more like a plexi than a plexi! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 To me it sounds way more like a plexi than a plexi! lol PLEXIER THAN PLEXI!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elder Things Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Just give the amps some preventative maintenance if they're known to fail. Amplifiers burning down is hilarious but not really dangerous. Playing on unserviced vintage gear can be the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 you all should take this little test: - Buy 2 Bugeras and put an ad offering to trade them both for an 800 or Plexi. - Then buy an 800 and put and ad accepting trades for 2 Bugeras. Let me know which one gets more hits. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cobrahead1030 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Bugeras will be cool when they're going for $100 all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 Now they're BETTER THAN A PLEXI!!!!! Not better, just bassier and louder. If i wanted a plexi tone id buy a plexi, i wanted a plexi-esc sound with more bass. Also, one big difference between Behringer/Bugera and other companies who make classicly inspired units is the volume of the products that they're manufacturing. I highly doubt WGS is affecting the market for Celestions the same way Bugera is affecting the market for Peavey amps. You rarely,if ever, hear of someone ditching their Peavey for a Bugera but many many many people have ditched their celestions for WGS. because he's an idiot kid trying to defend his own position that he deemed ok. it's ok to use straight ripoff products, as long as it's a brand he usesHonestly i agree. There is a hell of a lot of gear out their that copies/sorta copies something else so if you cant stand that mentality you really cant play music.I dont know why everyone gets in a huff about Bugera, i would think that as musicians, most of whom arent rich, would welcome affordable amps. If you want a Triple XXX, get a Triple XXX, if you want a Plexi, get a plexi, but if you are looking at getting something that has Plexi features(loud, 4 input, ability to mix channels together) and has other stuff you want(in my case added bass) why not get the Bugera. It wont replace a Plexi or be PLEXIER THAN PLEXI!!!!!! as our resident Laney-ist has said but it does cover some tonal ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 MORE VINTAGE THAN VINTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madrigal77 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 BETTER THAN LEXI!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 11, 2012 Members Share Posted July 11, 2012 MOAR BASS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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