Members Chrisjd Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 I see a reasonable price on one locally. a 333XL. Are these amps still ticking time bombs or have they actually been improved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 I opened up my friends and all that was inside of the chassis was a hammer wired to a potato and a hamster wheel (hamster was dead, looked like he caught on fire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JR13 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 bugera has (supposedly) fixed the initial issues. No, they are not time bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 They are really good sounding amps that had some quality control issues when they first came out. Many say these issues have been resolved but they are still the red headed step child on HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 My friend has one he has owned for a few years and gigged a hand full of times and never had a problem. Sounds pretty close to the PV too, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 The Bugeras that I've tried have sounded great. They had some pretty serious issues with their initial production run (fire hazard, etc) and there have been some subsequent reports of premature failures since, but it seems like if you get a good one, they're pretty decent. Of course, whether or not you get a good one is still a bit of a gamble. My bass player has a 1960 (SuperLead clone), and it sounds great and takes a beating. Others have not been as lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted July 7, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 Cool, good to hear that many of the issues may have been addressed. I have heard some awesome clips for high gain sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaViTaTioN Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 I have the 6262. I run a 10 band in the loop. It sounds great. I am ALWAYS skeptical when I take it out gigging but I do so almost in defiance of the general perception musicians have about Bugera. You know, grab the fire extinguisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaViTaTioN Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 ...and in regards to the 333xl, my other guitarist had one. It sounded good through the crap Bugera cab, so I can imagine it would sound 1,000x better through some decent speakers. I would say go for it if the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miter Gauge Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 What is their highest gain model? Does it sound pretty good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ovid9 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 The clips I hear always sound good. (Well, except a few, but that's usually the poster's fault.) My dislike for them comes mostly from their marketing. However, if you are buying used, they get no more money than they already had, I can't argue with that! I'd like to give one a shot but my GC apparently has decided to carry NOTHING but fast moving POS modelers, low end marshall SS amps, low end Fenders and Peavey 6505s sitting on Raven cabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 i think they have worked out some of the hotter issues. seriously though, i repaired one that smoked out. it was just the connector from the PT to the board for the heaters. too much current for that connector, i believe. they use surface mount components on those things, so as long as none of those fail it should be alright. i think the biggest thing that would bug me about having one is that if they did have a serious issue, it could easily cost more to fix than the amp is worth. if you look at them as being "disposable", it makes more sense. considering that you can buy the peavey (that they copied) used for a little bit more, i don't think they're worth buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 i think they have worked out some of the hotter issues. seriously though, i repaired one that smoked out. it was just the connector from the PT to the board for the heaters. too much current for that connector, i believe. they use surface mount components on those things, so as long as none of those fail it should be alright. i think the biggest thing that would bug me about having one is that if they did have a serious issue, it could easily cost more to fix than the amp is worth. if you look at them as being "disposable", it makes more sense. considering that you can buy the peavey (that they copied) used for a little bit more, i don't think they're worth buying. Some of the newer boards were done with heavy duty spade connectors instead of that cheap {censored} Molex (but not actual Molex) pins they were using previously. They also look to be hand soldered instead of dipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 67mike Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 Sound good. Haters gonna hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITROHOLIC Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 i want one of those 1960s to run at max volume enduance test style and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benjamin801 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 I was about to say they look tacky as {censored}, but then I realized that the only ones that really do are the ones that are clones of tacky-looking amps. I get that some people object to them on ethical grounds, and I can understand where they're coming from even if I don't agree. I'd buy one if it filled a need and the price was right. I'd love to find a BC-30 cheap and saw it down to a head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 I see a reasonable price on one locally. a 333XL. Are these amps still ticking time bombs or have they actually been improved? it's like comparing store/generic brand with major brand groceries. some people like franco american, some people like chef boyardee. they both do the same job, only with a slightly different flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 i think they have worked out some of the hotter issues. seriously though, i repaired one that smoked out. it was just the connector from the PT to the board for the heaters. too much current for that connector, i believe. they use surface mount components on those things, so as long as none of those fail it should be alright. i think the biggest thing that would bug me about having one is that if they did have a serious issue, it could easily cost more to fix than the amp is worth. if you look at them as being "disposable", it makes more sense. considering that you can buy the peavey (that they copied) used for a little bit more, i don't think they're worth buying. +1 I see Triple XXX for sale for $350-400 all the time on CL. It doesn't make sense to buy the Bugera copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 I had two. The V55 HD went up in a puff of smoke after 4 days, and the V22 combo died in 6. The combo was about 6 months ago, so I'm not convinced all the kinks are worked out. They did sound good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 case in point: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/3086412970.html http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/msg/3090824273.html etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 case in point:http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/3086412970.htmlhttp://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/msg/3090824273.htmletc... california is the exception, not the rule. i have been having a hard time finding anything here in the upper midwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 I have a 1960 and a V5 that i really like. If you are going for a JSX sound though, just get a used JSX. The reason i like my 1960 isnt because it sounds like a plexi, its because it sounds like a louder much bassier plexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted July 7, 2012 Members Share Posted July 7, 2012 california is the exception, not the rule.i have been having a hard time finding anything here in the upper midwest. hey I can always pick something up and ship it out to you. I've done it for a few other guys here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members rugbyguitargod Posted July 8, 2012 Members Share Posted July 8, 2012 i owned a 333XL and my other guitar player in my old band owned a XXX. the 333XL sounded bigger and not nearly as fizzy as the XXX did. i did some quality clips a few years ago when i owned it too. _rEzdcGrZDo pbEzu_iZTbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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