Members Cirrus Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Asked this on the FX forum, thought I'd ask here too. I tend to use an AC30 on the point of breakup and hit it with volume boosts etc, so it's pretty loud. How loud do you play? And what's your ideal/ philosophy in terms of stage sound, monitor mix, amount of backline sound that reaches the audience etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 50w orange, attenuated down to 65% or so, depending on the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 on 11 of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrostByte Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Most of the time, 6505+ at about 1/2 volume. Really depends on the venue though... no universal answer. In really small places I just plug my GSP1101 straight into the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LA-Ü-RA Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hard question to answer but we gig at about our practice levels which translates to loud enough to get a nice mix between bass, drums and guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Usually just to where there's a good mix between all the instruments, particularly the drums, which is also usually right about where I can turn around and pretty easily call up some good controlled sustaining feedback, anyway. Micing depends on the venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankthomson Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 what? can u speak louder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daveborn2rock Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 With my old band I was usually around 4 on my Peavey Ultra 1x12 but we were way louder than necessary. With my current band I've only been at about 2. It's loud enough to hear over the drums in practices and assuming there's any kind of decent PA live, I only want to use my amp as a sort of personal monitor and leave the mixing to the sound guy. So far things have worked out pretty well like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Asked this on the FX forum, thought I'd ask here too. I tend to use an AC30 on the point of breakup and hit it with volume boosts etc, so it's pretty loud. How loud do you play? And what's your ideal/ philosophy in terms of stage sound, monitor mix, amount of backline sound that reaches the audience etc? not even in the same zip code as that volume would be! But you would have to somewhat yell if you were trying to say something to a bandmate at 4-5' while playing. I can easily get sustaining feedback at that volume when desired, but can still easily hear my vocals w/o fighting the monitors and feedback, etc. My main thing is to be able to hear the kick well and just have a good overall stage mix. Out front we are considerably louder!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted August 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 It's loud enough to hear over the drums in practices and assuming there's any kind of decent PA live, I only want to use my amp as a sort of personal monitor and leave the mixing to the sound guy. That's cool. What I've found with my amp at the gigs I play is that if my amp's loud enough to balance with the drums up on stage, it's pretty much loud enough that there's plenty of sound coming off stage and filling the room unless it's a BIIIG venue. IE, by the time I'm loud enough that my amp is functioning as a personal monitor, I'm loud enough to be heard out front. So like some here, my ideal is having drums, bass and guitar amps all at a reasonable balance before the PA is introduced. And if you've got a hard hitting drummer, that can be quite loud. But then just use the PA for adding punch/ depth and spreading the sound out. To my mind, that's ideal because; - You can be sure that people are hearing the "sound" of your band as you intend. (in terms of balance and inter-band dynamics)- There's less of a chance the soundguy will screw it up or completely misinterpret what you want to sound like.- On stage, you only need vocals in the monitors. The backline is loud enough to hear in a balanced way. I find that very helpful because it means the monitors are clear and uncluttered sounding. And where it falls down; - If the acoustics of the room are bad, you might be at an unreasonable volume before the PA is even turned on.- If the soundguy demands total control, bad times are ahead for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowStorm Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Loud enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 That's cool.What I've found with my amp at the gigs I play is that if my amp's loud enough to balance with the drums up on stage, it's pretty much loud enough that there's plenty of sound coming off stage and filling the room unless it's a BIIIG venue. IE, by the time I'm loud enough that my amp is functioning as a personal monitor, I'm loud enough to be heard out front.So like some here, my ideal is having drums, bass and guitar amps all at a reasonable balance before the PA is introduced. And if you've got a hard hitting drummer, that can be quite loud. But then just use the PA for adding punch/ depth and spreading the sound out.To my mind, that's ideal because;- You can be sure that people are hearing the "sound" of your band as you intend. (in terms of balance and inter-band dynamics)- There's less of a chance the soundguy will screw it up or completely misinterpret what you want to sound like.- On stage, you only need vocals in the monitors. The backline is loud enough to hear in a balanced way. I find that very helpful because it means the monitors are clear and uncluttered sounding.And where it falls down;- If the acoustics of the room are bad, you might be at an unreasonable volume before the PA is even turned on.- If the soundguy demands total control, bad times are ahead for you. in my experience, all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 That's cool.What I've found with my amp at the gigs I play is that if my amp's loud enough to balance with the drums up on stage, it's pretty much loud enough that there's plenty of sound coming off stage and filling the room unless it's a BIIIG venue. IE, by the time I'm loud enough that my amp is functioning as a personal monitor, I'm loud enough to be heard out front.So like some here, my ideal is having drums, bass and guitar amps all at a reasonable balance before the PA is introduced. And if you've got a hard hitting drummer, that can be quite loud. But then just use the PA for adding punch/ depth and spreading the sound out.To my mind, that's ideal because;- You can be sure that people are hearing the "sound" of your band as you intend. (in terms of balance and inter-band dynamics)- There's less of a chance the soundguy will screw it up or completely misinterpret what you want to sound like.- On stage, you only need vocals in the monitors. The backline is loud enough to hear in a balanced way. I find that very helpful because it means the monitors are clear and uncluttered sounding.And where it falls down;- If the acoustics of the room are bad, you might be at an unreasonable volume before the PA is even turned on.- If the soundguy demands total control, bad times are ahead for you. Between this and Laura's post, my take is pretty well covered. I can usually carry my amp to a gig with only minor tweaks, because it's pretty well what we practice at. We've played quite a few gigs where only vocals go in the PA, and that's how we do at rehearsal. The drums are pretty much the only thing volume wise we can't control, so we match volume to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 we practice at a much lower level than our stage volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skibob Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 I usually try to set my stage volume according to the drums before they are miced. Not louder than the drums, but about the same level since my cab is miced. That way it's loud enough that I can hear it and we don't have feedback issues, but it's not overpowering the PA. But it depends on the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdubbs Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Pretty loud wherever we go. We're rock machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 It depends on the venue, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 I ran the plexi on 2 the other night in a 300 person banquet room. Carried just fine. I used to run the Pro Reverb on maybe 2.5 in similar venues. Practice with that band was my valvetronix at low volume. In my original band we play louder. I typically have the plexi around 7 on the high treble side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nick H Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Rule of thumb is if everyone else isnt telling you to turn it down, youre not playing loud enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 DSL 50 Greenback loaded 2x12Master 3-4 on avg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 It depends on the venue, really. Pretty much came in to say this. However, I have a really hard time getting my VTM above 3 without pissing off any soundman. Outdoor gigs rule because I can have a bit more stage volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 dave/mesa you talking clock readings or 1-10 levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daveborn2rock Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 dave/mesa you talking clock readings or 1-10 levels? I was talking 1-10 levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundgardener75 Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 Rule of thumb is if everyone else isnt telling you to turn it down, youre not playing loud enough. Says the guy who tapes his speaker connections to his cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted August 12, 2012 Members Share Posted August 12, 2012 dave/mesa you talking clock readings or 1-10 levels? 1-10 levels according to Marshall/Fender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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