Members Whalebot Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 The little things holding the strings down? I ordered a mini strat and want to get one of the fancier kind like found on the standars strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bengerm77 Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 string tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 String trees. They help break the strings over the nut properly because the Strat has a straight headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 To be more precise, string trees provide string downforce at the nut on non-angled headstocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 To be more precise, string tees provide string downforce at the nut on non-angled headstocks. Exactly. It allows Fender to get away with using a thinner piece of lumber for their necks. It's a cost saver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Exactly. It allows the Fender to get away with using a thinner piece of lumber for their necks. It's a cost saver. I can't say it's a "cost saver" or not. Using flat-sawn wood for a neck, certainly is. I wasn't there when Leo designed them, but Fender is not the only maker to use straight headstocks. It's either string trees or staggered height tuning machines, to get sufficent string down-force at the nut. Some "purists" want nothing else but a straight headstock. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 To be more precise, string tees provide string downforce at the nut on non-angled headstocks. Thanks, I didn't know quite how to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 I can't say it's a "cost saver" or not. Using flat-sawn wood for a neck, certainly is. I wasn't there when Leo designed them, but Fender is not the only maker to use straight headstocks. It's either string trees or staggered height tuning machines, to get sufficent string down-force at the nut. Some "purists" want nothing else but a straight headstock. Go figure. Actually, it's well documented. Leo Fender's goal was to mass produce his guitars and keep them affordable. Part of that was how he designed the neck. Angled headstocks require a thicker slab of lumber if you use a single piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Actually, it's well documented. Leo Fender's goal was to mass produce his guitars and keep them affordable. Part of that was how he designed the neck. Angled headstocks require a thicker slab of lumber if you use a single piece. The question of what they are called and used for, has been answered. There are many different reasons for doing anything, I gave one explanation. I'll leave it to you Hudman, to conjecture away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kimona Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 I've always known them to be called string guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 The question of what they are called and used for, has been answered. There are many different reasons for doing anything, I gave one explanation. I'll leave it to you Hudman, to conjecture away. I like your conjecture...... No need to be an asshole. Here's a thought: You may not know everything. Although, it's obvious you think you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members McNulty Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Only on a musicians forum could a nice discussion about string trees turn nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Only on a musicians forum could a nice discussion about string trees turn nasty. Yeah, nasty discussions are rare on internet forums. Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members McNulty Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Yeah, nasty discussions are rare on internet forums.Give me a break. This. Be nice, fellas. We all love guitars. With or without string trees, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poppytater Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Ahem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Yeah, nasty discussions are rare on internet forums.Give me a break. String trees don't seem to be a very controversial topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members McNulty Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 :rawk: Ahem... http://youtube.com/watch?v=p3MiD_U4CHQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 I like your conjecture......No need to be an asshole.Here's a thought: You may not know everything. Although, it's obvious you think you do. I have been building guitars for over 37 years, so I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to them. However, I have never been a good judge of character when it comes to pompous asses, such as yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 This.Be nice, fellas. We all love guitars. With or without string trees, no? I was fine. Guitar Stringer chose to be an asshole with his comment. I called him out for it and I make no apology for doing it. Yes, he builds guitars for a living. That's terrific but he acts like he invented the {censored}ing guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kwakatak Posted December 2, 2009 Members Share Posted December 2, 2009 Anybody wanna buy a Kramer {censored}us? No string trees necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 Anybody wanna buy a Kramer {censored}us? No string trees necessary. Thanks for the thought kwak, but I favor angled headstocks myself. The only kind of guitars I build have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 I have been building guitars for over 37 years, so I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to them. However, I have never been a good judge of character when it comes to pompous asses, such as yourself. Yes, roll out your resume (again). I don't give a {censored} what you do for a living, what I said was the truth and not conjecture. It is cheaper to manufacturer a single piece neck with a straight headstock. A single piece neck with a slanted headstock requires a thicker slab of wood. You've been building guitars for 37 years. That's fantastic. However, that doesn't make everything you say true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 Yes, roll out your resume (again).I don't give a {censored} what you do for a living, what I said was the truth and not conjecture. It is cheaper to manufacturer a single piece neck with a straight headstock. A single piece neck with a slanted headstock requires a thicker slab of wood. You've been building guitars for 37 years. That's fantastic. However, that doesn't make everything you say true. Give this a thought, you pompous asshole: You were not there when Leo Fender designed his guitars, neither was I. If you want to start calling me names, fine. Bob Taylor also builds his guitars with a thin slab of wood. yet he angles his headstocks. Know what the {censored} you are talking about, before you dive in. Better yet, why don't you go and give some guitar hero lessons??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poppytater Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 If I may be so bold.....http://youtube.com/watch?v=dfU17niXOG8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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