Members Greymuzzle Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 Isn't the world wonderful? Huge political and corporate pressure can be brought to bear on a kid on a laptop in their bedroom, but if you're connected enough you can do whatever the feck you like! My hat is off to 81year old Mrs Lynott. Go Ma, Go! The mother of Irish rock legend Phil Lynott has objected to the Mitt Romney campaign using Thin Lizzy's music at last week's Republican National Convention. Philomena Lynott said her son would not have approved of the US Republicans playing the Thin Lizzy anthem "The Boys Are Back In Town" at Romney's nomination as presidential candidate. She said that the late Thin Lizzy front man would have rejected any association with the Republicans particularly the Christian right wing of the party. The Dublin woman told the Irish music magazine "Hot Press" that she was upset that one of her son's most famous rock songs was used by the Republicans to endorse Romney and his running mate Paul Ryan. The Thin Lizzy singer would have opposed the Republican anti-gay and pro-rich policies, she said. Instead she believed her son would have backed Barack Obama. She told the magazine: "As far as I am concerned, Mitt Romney's opposition to gay marriage and to civil unions for gays makes him anti-gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldTwelver Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 Well, here's an equally stupid concept. We'll have the government place a code on every recording identifying it's political affiliation. The when you want to play that recording, you'll have to plug in your voter registration number, to see if you can listen to it.Maybe we can "blackout" recordings based on whether you're in a Red or Blue State?As long as no performance or copyright laws were infringed upon, that's life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike_E_McGee Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 I don't know if performance or copyright laws were infringed upon, but if they were I bet there is no backlash what so ever. If I wrote a song and found it being used as a rallying cry for those who represent the exact opposite of my beliefs, I'd fight that in any way shape or form I could. Good on ya Mrs Lynott says I. Perhaps all she can do is express her disdain for this, but I'm glad she's doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Blanchard Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 As long as no performance or copyright laws were infringed upon, that's life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TN.Frank Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 If Obama gets elected for another 4 years then we'll all be playing Thin Lizzy's "Jailbreak" because everything this ol' boy likes to do will be illegal(i.e. Guns, gas guzzling V8 Hot Rods, going to Church). Maybe the Republicans should play some good ol' Uncle Ted, I'm sure he'd not mind at all and would probably even show up in person to play a few tunes live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katopp Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 TN.Frank, why would going to church will be illegal under Obama's presidency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TN.Frank Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 Do a google under "Obama Anti-Christian" and read a few of the things that come up. It just might shock you a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katopp Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 Oh, I see. Apparently Obama is a socialist/communist/nazi. All rolled into one. Apart from the hearsay, I would like to see an actual bill/law or even a suggestion for a bill/law.You Americans can praise yourselves pretty lucky that you never ever came close to a communist or even socialist regime.I happen to have lived literally next to a socialist state and helped to dismantle it from 1989 to 1994. Trust me. The US of A are as close to a socialist state as they are to Alpha Centauri. It's out of your world. Your most left-wing democrats would still be right of center here in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TN.Frank Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 Obamacare forces religious institutions to provide contraception even though it may be against their religious believes.http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2012/02/09/obamacare-birth-control-mandate-tramples-religious-libertyYour most left-wing democrats would still be right of center here in Europe.Wasn't it Obama that said that he wanted us(the U.S of A.) to be MORE like Europe. So, what do ya' think he meant by that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldTwelver Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 I feel you, but I don't think the issue is who hears it, it who uses it for what purpose. I believe that advertisers have to have permission to use a song in an advertisement; there should be some format for the writer/artist to allow or disallow the use of their work to promote a candidate for public office. I don't have to worry, as no sensible candidate of any party would use my music. You can bet that the Convention Hall is a union shop, and they wouldn't even turn on the music until they were certain that the Performance Fee was paid to the publisher or union.I played mostly non-union clubs for years before I found out that the club owners paid a "blanket" live performance fee to the union for songs that I performed. I understand what you are thinking Gary, but it's a very slippery slope you're trying to balance on. It's a very short step from there to the government deciding what songs CAN be played because of politics. Think Germany in the 30's banning Jazz and Swing. Or the Soviet Union banning Rock and Roll. Etc, Etc, Etc.Opening that door is very dangerous because it invariably swings both ways.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Blanchard Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 This is not the government stating what songs can be played; it is the artist having the ability to state that he or she does not want their music to support a certain product or cause. This has nothing to do with the government and everything to do with the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katopp Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 TN.Frank. I don't want to start a political discussion here and we should stop it here and now ... but your link does not say that going to church will be deemed illegal.But let's better stop it here. This is not the potty - thank God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pitar Posted September 4, 2012 Members Share Posted September 4, 2012 Well, here's an equally stupid concept. We'll have the government place a code on every recording identifying it's political affiliation. The when you want to play that recording, you'll have to plug in your voter registration number, to see if you can listen to it.Maybe we can "blackout" recordings based on whether you're in a Red or Blue State?As long as no performance or copyright laws were infringed upon, that's life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike_E_McGee Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 If Obama wins, he's going to have the UN replace all our guitars with Zagers. Read it online, must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poppytater Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 If your political views can be swayed by song selection.....try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kujozilla Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 Okay, I know I post infrequently as of late, and I am aware the majority of the time my posts seem to be all of about as important as rat {censored} in Van Camp's Chili, but I just blocked Grey Muzzle. I become very tempted to block those who make slanted posts like this in an otherwise docile forum. Anyone with any common sense knows this forum seems to have little to no moderation, and by adding political posts such as this you are pissing in the water supply and tainting everyone downstream. Yet again, I know this post won't hold any weight, but see my post count over there on the side? Well, even if I'm not a popular member over here the vast majority of those shiny little posts took place here. With conversations like this being as commonplace as they seem to be becoming I may just elect to let that count remain at the current count written, and find greener pastures elsewhere. Thanks for all the fish, That Guy with a Mean Dog Avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Michael Martin Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 With conversations like this being as commonplace as they seem to be becoming I may just elect to let that count remain at the current count written, and find greener pastures elsewhere.Thanks for all the fish,That Guy with a Mean Dog Avatar I don't see a lot of political stuff here. I'm not here every day, but almost. Whatever pastures you may roam KJ, keeping posting on the VOM1Ts! You're a true original as writer and performer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamesp Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 If I had more time I'd do an avatar that posted nothing but "goodbye cruel forum" posts. Fortunately for us, I have no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gitmo Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 Who's Thin Lizzy and why did those boys come back into town? They came back into town for the Republican convention? If I were Lizzy, I'd be grateful someone still wanted to use a song I wrote that really NEVER was that good to begin with. If I were Romney, I'd fire whoever decided to use that song at my convention. What would Zarathustra say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terry Allan Hall Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 Well, here's an equally stupid concept. We'll have the government place a code on every recording identifying it's political affiliation. The when you want to play that recording, you'll have to plug in your voter registration number, to see if you can listen to it.Maybe we can "blackout" recordings based on whether you're in a Red or Blue State?As long as no performance or copyright laws were infringed upon, that's life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 You folks do realize we have a Political Forum? Please take this crap there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Opa John Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 You folks do realize we have a Political Forum? Please take this crap there. Amen. You took the words right out of my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Queequeg Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 Amen. You took the words right out of my mouth.You guys are never satisfied.First there's not enough posts in here; now there's too many.Next thing you know we won't be able to post our porn here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 ... ... C'mon, TAH, where is all your sanctimonious theatrics about "we do not discuss politics" here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axegrinder009 Posted September 5, 2012 Members Share Posted September 5, 2012 The peculiar notion that an artist with published works has a right, legal or moral, to determine who, what, when, or where, a published, coptyrighted work can be played is just idiotic. Certainly, the artist may be very distraught over any particular venue that hosts their music, but as long as the appropriate and legal fees are paid, they have no reasonable, moral, or justifiable recourse. If you put your music out to the public, then it will be played. Just get your dough from ASCAP or BMI and move on down the road. This is extreme political whining at it's worst, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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