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  • #16
    Very cool - thanks for checking the weight and reporting back DeepEnd!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by DeepEnd View Post
      Okay, final update: Mrs. DeepEnd's diet scale says a bit less than 12 ounces, about 335 grams. It's not a Postal scale so it's not super accurate but it should be fairly close. I could add small amounts of weight by adding extra nuts if I wanted, probably less than 50¢ each. All told I'm happy with it and I recommend it to anyone who needs a cheap solution.
      Nice. I'm curious of how it looks. Do you have any pictures of the setup?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by DeepEnd View Post
        Yes, it's a round base. I bought the stand used via CraigsList, $15 with the boom. I use it for recording. If I were buying new I'd probably look for something with a tripod base. Lord knows I have plenty of crap lying around to use for dead weight.
        A dumbbell or barbell weight works well.

        I think they sell them in singles at Walmart.

        If you have the tripod kind you can use a wheelbarrow inner tub, remover the stem and fill it with sand or water. Then put the stem back in place. Drape it over the tripod part.


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        • #19
          Originally posted by DeepEnd View Post
          My Samson C01U mike is heavy enough and the base on my mike stand small enough that it tends to tip. I checked online and found out a proper counterweight would run me $15-20 minimum but I'm cheap. A trip to the local hardware store netted a large cable clamp for a penny over $5 with tax:
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          All is well and if I need more weight later I can always buy another one.
          Might be useful for me. I use a boom with a flexible extension to get my mic over my two keyboard setup. Balance is often an issue, and a bit of extra counterweight couldn't hurt.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by davie View Post
            Nice. I'm curious of how it looks. Do you have any pictures of the setup?
            You just take the clamp apart by unscrewing the nuts, slide it over the boom, and reassemble it. It's mainly just a big U bolt. Here's a bad pic (sorry, my camera was almost out of juice so I only got one shot):
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            That's the grip on the left and the main part of the boom is off to the right. The background is the wall of my basement. I'd say 60% of the boom is on the side away from the mike. It works well and it was cheap.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by isaac42 View Post
              Might be useful for me. I use a boom with a flexible extension to get my mic over my two keyboard setup. Balance is often an issue, and a bit of extra counterweight couldn't hurt.
              $5 and a trip to the hardware store might be worth it. If you decide to go for it let us know how it works for you.
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              • #22
                I had the same issues with some boom stands maybe 10 years ago. I relied on using what I had lying around at home for the fix.

                On the Vocal mic the drummer used a goose neck which adds allot of weight.

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                I used a heavy clamp like tool used to remove pressed bearings as a counterweight. Chances of me ever removing bearings again is a million to one so it's been repurposed.

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                Here's another you'll love. My overhead mics are mounted to a small piece of wood. Even though its fairly light, the quality of the mic stand is not very good. (You typically use your non critical, beat up mic stands for drums)

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                Between the weight of two mics, the holders and the cables the weight caused the stand to bow down and keel over.
                I finally found the best fix was even better then duct tape. You can add a Bungee cord to those must have studio tools. It worked better then a counter weight in fact.



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                • #23
                  Originally posted by WRGKMC View Post
                  I had the same issues with some boom stands maybe 10 years ago. I relied on using what I had lying around at home for the fix. . . .

                  . . . I used a heavy clamp like tool used to remove pressed bearings as a counterweight. Chances of me ever removing bearings again is a million to one so it's been repurposed.

                  Here's another you'll love. My overhead mics are mounted to a small piece of wood. Even though its fairly light, the quality of the mic stand is not very good. (You typically use your non critical, beat up mic stands for drums)

                  Between the weight of two mics, the holders and the cables the weight caused the stand to bow down and keel over.
                  I finally found the best fix was even better then duct tape. You can add a Bungee cord to those must have studio tools. It worked better then a counter weight in fact.
                  Yeah, found items can work. I could've used a C clamp or pretty much any fairly heavy object. I could've also attached something long and reasonably heavy to the boom with wire ties. The advantage of the cable clamp is that it's designed to be used on something round (like a cable--duh! or a mike boom). I keep a couple of bungee cords in the trunk of my car. You're right that you never know when you're going to need one. If I need one at home the car is right there in the driveway. A bungee cord can't do the same job as a counterweight though: If the stand is unbalanced it will still tip. The first step is figuring out what the actual problem is. After that you can search for the best solution.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DeepEnd View Post
                    $5 and a trip to the hardware store might be worth it. If you decide to go for it let us know how it works for you.
                    Will do. I need to go to a hardware store, anyway.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by WRGKMC View Post



                      Here's another you'll love. My overhead mics are mounted to a small piece of wood. Even though its fairly light, the quality of the mic stand is not very good. (You typically use your non critical, beat up mic stands for drums)

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                      Between the weight of two mics, the holders and the cables the weight caused the stand to bow down and keel over.
                      I finally found the best fix was even better then duct tape. You can add a Bungee cord to those must have studio tools. It worked better then a counter weight in fact.



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                      That IS an interesting idea!

                      Now about your cable management...
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post


                        That IS an interesting idea!

                        Now about your cable management...
                        Neat cables are the sign of a sick mind.

                        Yer SPOSETA trip over 'em
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Danocoustic View Post

                          Neat cables are the sign of a sick mind.

                          Guilty as charged...

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                          Yer SPOSETA trip over 'em

                          It's one thing if *I* trip over them, but if a client does, it's a potential injury and liability... but more importantly, they'd mess up my carefully positioned drum mikes!



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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post


                            Guilty as charged...

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                            It's one thing if *I* trip over them, but if a client does, it's a potential injury and liability... but more importantly, they'd mess up my carefully positioned drum mikes!


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Danocoustic View Post

                              Drums are for marching bands
                              There's a similar line in the Buddy Holly Story where a Nashville producer (Owen Bradley) tells him that drums are for parades or something along those lines... of course that didn't go over very well with the band, and is one of the reasons Buddy headed to Clovis to work with Norman Petty.
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                              - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                              "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post

                                There's a similar line in the Buddy Holly Story where a Nashville producer (Owen Bradley) tells him that drums are for parades or something along those lines... of course that didn't go over very well with the band, and is one of the reasons Buddy headed to Clovis to work with Norman Petty.
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