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  • WRT bending wire, I do what BYOC Stephen suggests:

    http://www.buildyourownclone.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6401&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

    Stranded, tinned, bent and lightly crimped for a strong physical connection before soldering.


    Cool. Yeah, I used to not tin my wires before soldering, maybe that was it... anyway, it was good to go back and make sure my methods are correct
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    • Hey dudes, I'm wanting to mod my already modded LPB - 1 to have a tad bit more high end. Which cap do I swap out, C1 or C2?



      That isn't my pedal, just one I found off of the net. I've already swapped out C1 and C2 for a .047uf. It cut down on the muddiness of the bass and adds just enough low end boost to make my amp sound heavy without adding mud. The only thing now though is that it's not really jiving with my jcm800 (it worked great with my Soldano). The highs are a little muffled. I know I can swap out the caps to add more high end but I don't wanna lose the low end of the pedal the way it is now. I'd like to make the pedal more transparent in the highs but keep the low end like it is. Can I just swap one of the caps out to fix that or do they have to be both swapped out to the same value?
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      • Honestly honestly, it's a terrible design and there's more to the lack of high end than just the cap values; the input impedance is pathetic. Neither of those caps are rolling off high end.
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        • Honestly honestly, it's a terrible design and there's more to the lack of high end than just the cap values; the input impedance is pathetic. Neither of those caps are rolling off high end.


          Really? Because I thought changing them out to different values was the only thing that was different about the Mole, Screaming Bird, and the LPB-1. I've always liked mine for what it does. It's not a SHO or anything (those are awesome too) but it is the one pedal that I will never get rid of.
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          • If the dude working on the cassette tape echo is still checking this thread out, Electronic Goldmine has gear assemblies for cheap.

            http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=g18754


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            • Really? Because I thought changing them out to different values was the only thing that was different about the Mole, Screaming Bird, and the LPB-1. I've always liked mine for what it does. It's not a SHO or anything (those are awesome too) but it is the one pedal that I will never get rid of.


              The Screaming Bird is brighter because it removes low end, it does not boost high end.

              If you want to do this, you can change the input coupling cap from whatever it is to a .001uf cap. You will lose a lot of lows and thickness.

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              • try building a dr scientist frazz dazzler clone.


                thanks but, I'm not sophisticated enough to clone it myself. Do you have a kit or layout in mind?
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                • The Screaming Bird is brighter because it removes low end, it does not boost high end.

                  If you want to do this, you can change the input coupling cap from whatever it is to a .001uf cap. You will lose a lot of lows and thickness.


                  I don't wanna lose lows and thickness, but I would like the top end to be a little more transparent.
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                  • Then you're probably barking up the wrong pedal. An LPB is a pretty flat pedal. The Mole passively rolls off highs to get a darker sound. the Bird rolls of lows to get a brighter sound. Like THAT4301 said, there is probably some input impedance issues. However, if you're running the pedal after an already buffered pedal, then the impedance issues are for naught.

                    Having said all this, you can imagine the LPB giving you everything to the best of it's abilities. If you want, you can filter the sound bassively, but you can't get any "more" of anything with out some serious changes.

                    Something to consider is that the booster section of this pedal is always running at full blast, and the volume is just a passive attenuator. It might sound a bit more hi-fi if you padded down the input signal and then turned up the output signal. So a simple mod might be adding a trim pot to add series resistance before the transistor input. Not too easy, but not too hard either.

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                    • I don't wanna lose lows and thickness, but I would like the top end to be a little more transparent.


                      The high end is probably being muddied due to the ****************ty input impedance. It's REALLY low, even for something going after another pedal. Op-amps, Jfets, Mosfets, don't have this problem.

                      I suppose you could try replacing the 430k/43k pair with a 2M2/180k, that might improve matters. You'd have to modify the input blocking cap appropriately (make it 0.25 the size you currently like it I think)

                      I like benadrian's idea about attenuating the input but honestly, I'd be looking into making other boosters sound more lpb-1ish than I would trying to make the lpb-1 less muddy.
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                      • Then you're probably barking up the wrong pedal. An LPB is a pretty flat pedal. The Mole passively rolls off highs to get a darker sound. the Bird rolls of lows to get a brighter sound. Like THAT4301 said, there is probably some input impedance issues. However, if you're running the pedal after an already buffered pedal, then the impedance issues are for naught.

                        Having said all this, you can imagine the LPB giving you everything to the best of it's abilities. If you want, you can filter the sound bassively, but you can't get any "more" of anything with out some serious changes.

                        Something to consider is that the booster section of this pedal is always running at full blast, and the volume is just a passive attenuator. It might sound a bit more hi-fi if you padded down the input signal and then turned up the output signal. So a simple mod might be adding a trim pot to add series resistance before the transistor input. Not too easy, but not too hard either.


                        So if the two caps roll off low or high end depending on what value they are could I just jumper the two caps to make it flat but still boost the more I turn it up? It runs after a Pitch Black so i don't notice any issues, but then again I haven't had a problem with it running straight from my guitar to my amp. Unless the kinda muffled high end is what you're talking about. I've modded pedals and built a few kits and even some SHO clones on vero board, but I really don't know much more about it aside from being able to follow directions of a build kit. I just like tinkering with this thing. The main thing I was wondering is it ok to change the caps to different values or do they always need to be the same.
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                        • Of course you can mix and match, but you'll have to see what you like best - and this will take some time. You could put sockets in and making trying out caps and easier affair?
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                          • Of course you can mix and match, but you'll have to see what you like best - and this will take some time. You could put sockets in and making trying out caps and easier affair?


                            I socketed the c1, c2, and transistor in here to swap out stuff. it makes it a hell of alot easier to swap things out.
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                            • Thats about right. Heres the data sheet for a typical 100W fender OT which shows the typical voltages.
                              http://www.bluebellaudio.com/EDB1760W.pdf

                              Also be aware that 100W can be kind of meaningless if you're overdriving the power amp as you could be bunging a lot more into the speakers as the signal basically becomes a square wave with some harmonics added in.


                              Ah alright. Looks like I'll just have to use a toggle switch array instead of a rotary switch. Much cheaper for higher spec'd items.

                              Thanks guys.
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                              Matthew

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                              • So if the two caps roll off low or high end depending on what value they are could I just jumper the two caps to make it flat but still boost the more I turn it up?


                                No; they're necessary to stop DC from escaping out each end.
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