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    I realized and rightfully so, age can play a big difference when it comes to how people view today's music, and depending on what you grew-up listening to and loved, it is not unusual to find some music un-relatable.

    Reading Quincy Jones's recent interview in GQ, I find it hypocritical, that someone who has also produced and written the same kind of songs is suddenly critical of Taylor Swift. But Kendrick Lamar is OK.
    Jones was one of the best - during his time and I will always love and respect his work but it's okay to allow other people to be who they are. Being great does not give one a pass to be a total jerk.

    Here is a user comment verbatim, just to exemplify my point:

    music bigot... if everyone before jones thought the way he does now there would never be a quincy jones. He's not smart, or at least not as smart as he thinks he is. Heck, taylor swift's music makes me ill, i'm sure somewhere in my family there was someone who didn't think the Beatles were any good. EVERYONE deserves their shot, whether they're good bad or indifferent should not matter. Got it, Qunice?

    Maybe this is bad aging or some buried unsolved emotional disconnect, but apart from Taylor Swift, there are great artists out there today and just because one cannot relate or does not like the music, it does not take away from the tremendous contribution and effect these artist are having.

    Reading the comments about the interview on Rolling Stones, I am not the only disappointed fan.

    Somebody should tell Mr. Jones to stop before he completely ruin his legacy.


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    He claims to speak 26 languages - writes Mandarin and Arabic ? I think he should sit next to Pat Robertson in the 700 Club. God reportedly told Pat that Trump would be elected president. In case god give Robertson revelations in a language other than English, Quincy could translate. Or maybe he should be in charge of creating peace in the middle-east.

    Quincy has a track record miles long. I think his age is catching up with him.

    And I think that the guy who produced "It's My Party" by Leslie Gore (which I like BTW) shouldn't be criticizing Taylor Swift's popness.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by davd_indigo View Post
      He claims to speak 26 languages - writes Mandarin and Arabic ? I think he should sit next to Pat Robertson in the 700 Club. God reportedly told Pat that Trump would be elected president. In case god give Robertson revelations in a language other than English, Quincy could translate. Or maybe he should be in charge of creating peace in the middle-east.

      Quincy has a track record miles long. I think his age is catching up with him.

      And I think that the guy who produced "It's My Party" by Leslie Gore (which I like BTW) shouldn't be criticizing Taylor Swift's popness.
      Apart from the criticism, the interview is just in poor taste.
      Talking about girl friends as if he is still in high school.

      Looks like some screws are missing.
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      • #4
        Jerry Lewis got ugly and cantankerous in his last years. My suspicion is that he didn't enjoy suffering interviewers asking him questions about his work when they weren't actually familiar with his work.


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        • #5
          85? I wonder if Quincy's 22 'girlfriends' give him a warm bottle and tuck him in when he gets tired and cranky?
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          • #6
            It's unfortunate because this man has accomplished a lot.

            However, whatever respect I had is gone, especially given his recent interview trashing the Beatles and talking about Michael Jackson.

            This guy is just senile and should not be giving interviews.

            What a dud!
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            • #7
              ...and this is why journalism sucks: The question he was asked was "What were your first impressions of the Beatles?"

              Rolling Stone didn't even bother to print the question, they just added their own "click bait" summary: "Jones thought the Beatles were terrible musicians."

              I'm behind in my work right now but I'll venture back with some thoughts about Quincy Jones. I had the chance to do an extensive interview with him years ago and all I can say is, what you read is not what you get. He's a very funny guy, and if you read the interview like he's having fun and you can see him smiling and joking, it's real different from reading it like it's from this bitter old guy with a big frown.

              One thing he is adamant about is that music is a skill and you need to learn it, practice it, and unravel its mysteries as much as you can. A lot of what appears like putdowns (in a way, they are) is him being upset that people aren't taking music further. The guy really is eclectic in his musical tastes, and I think he can't see why there isn't a similar intellectual curiosity in evidence these days. It certainly existed in the 60s, and I'm sure it will return.
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              • #8
                How old are you Op? I ask this because you should know the older you get the less of a **************** you give anymore and you just tell your truth. This is what Quincy Jones is doing and if it offends you then you can’t handle the truth. Quincy truth. I for one think it’s a breath of fresh air.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sventvkg View Post
                  How old are you Op? I ask this because you should know the older you get the less of a **************** you give anymore and you just tell your truth. This is what Quincy Jones is doing and if it offends you then you can’t handle the truth. Quincy truth. I for one think it’s a breath of fresh air.
                  Thanks for the question:
                  It's a apparent we are not going to agree but I am not one to take an argument personal.

                  I would disagree with you based on my own personal experiences. I still consider myself a young man but when I was young-er, I would get annoyed at people and had little patience but now that I am a bit older, I have become more sensitive to people and aware of other people's feelings. I have been insulted on this forum for no reason and I just move on as if it never happened, that would not have been the case 10 years ago.

                  Now, back to the topic, no one on this forum in their right mind and without bias is going to read these interviews and say "he's speaking his mind and this is good." There are certain line you do not cross and certain things you do not say.

                  I am not questioning his talent or his contributions, however his behavior is completely out of line and I can no longer tell my son to go read about Quincy Jones. This guy is simply ruining his reputation and it will not end good.

                  Michael Jackson is dead, and I understand they had disagreement and he (Quincy) won some monetary litigation but you do not trash someone when they are no longer here to defend themself, it's disgusting.

                  Based on interviews I have heard, Quincy hated Billie Jean, he complained about the intro, "It's too long and I can shave through it."
                  I think Quincy has never gotten over the fact that Michael grew-up musically, and wanted to do other things with other people like Teddy Riley and Dark Child. He never got over this, hence the underline anger.

                  People like to diminish Michael Jackson contribution but I do not see Bruce Swedien writing a book about Jennifer Lopez in the studio.

                  Regardless of who did what, they all complimented each other and it was great, why can't Quincy just leave it there?

                  You say it's a breath of fresh air, I say it's damaging to his legacy.
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                  • #10
                    I just think it's in bad taste to publicly criticize others in your own business. That's the job of critics, not other musicians.
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                    • #11
                      One interview should not be used to totally characterize someone, or to use as a reason to shun them forever as a 100% unacceptable person.

                      Let's face it - lots and lots and lots of top-notch musicians are quite cranky and hyper-opinionated. You should hear my old buddies from the high school rock crowd - jeez, so many of them set their opinions in cement sometime in the 70s and they'll stand by them like they were first principles or something. Ever read Robert Christgau, the acerbic "famed" Village Voice music critic from the 60s-70s? There all in the same cult of sour attitudes about this and that musician and genre and style and whatever.

                      Personally, I learn almost nothing from negative musical assessments, and almost everything from positive musical assessments. But I still regrettably slip into trashing some music or artist from time to time - it's human and that's my tribe. And the people who don't agree with me are also my tribe.

                      I love my old cranky friends, and argue with them. And I read Christgau and gain from it. No need to run away from them as if they have the plague or will corrupt the youth or something.

                      Something is going really wacky in the culture these days where "something somebody SAID!!!" is top-headline material day after day after day. And millions of media addicts repeat and mulitiply the ritual of public shaming and blaming and shunning as if that is the approved road to the moral high ground.

                      The current era is at LEAST as uptight as the 50s ever were IMHO -

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                      • #12
                        As we use to say years ago, "Praise in public, criticize in private." In today's word we see little of the former, and much more of the later. I believe primarily because the later brings more clicks and thus more ad revenue. Sad.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mandolin Picker View Post
                          As we use to say years ago, "Praise in public, criticize in private." In today's word we see little of the former, and much more of the later. I believe primarily because the later brings more clicks and thus more ad revenue. Sad.
                          Yeah, I heard he has a NetFlix special coming up, maybe this is a way to generate traction.
                          For me, Quincy Jones has always been the most admired person in music and I am just baffled as to why someone with so much accomplishment will behave this way.

                          The guy has accomplished so much but right now he is on a path to crash into the darkness of another planet.

                          I just don't get it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mandolin Picker View Post
                            "Praise in public, criticize in private."
                            This should be the motto of all musicians (and others of course).

                            When I hear a band, I tell them what I like about them, and ignore the rest. If someone asks me about that band, it totally depends on who they are as to whether I tell the good or the bad. And if I feel the person needs to learn from the bad, I'll tell the good first.

                            At least I try to. But I admit, sometimes I fail and resolve to be better the next time.

                            The Beatles? I love the B sections of their pop songs. They are usually short with inventive ways to get you release from the tonic key and back into the verses. I don't care if they did it or Mr. Martin did, I like the product. And the later stuff like the Abbey Road Medley is sublime.

                            If someone else played the instruments in the studio, that's OK. The Wrecking Crew, Swampers, and so many others did the same for some of the other biggest stars in the industry.

                            And remember, a good composer steals, a bad one plagiarizes. Beethoven, Dvorak, Tchaikovsky, Mozart, etc., all were influenced by each other and stole from each other. Dvorak's ninth has a direct quote from Beethoven's ninth, but I believe it was homage. And they all took folk melodies and made symphonies out of them.

                            We take what we learned from others, mix them together, add some original ideas, and come up with something new. It's how it's done.

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                              nicely said, Notes.

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                            I dunno. I see a lot of slagging on people in the industry going on in this forum every day. People seem to be upset that Jones did it because he dared to touch on the sacred cow that is The Beatles. But he's got as much right to be critical of their musical abilities as anyone here does of whatever latest pop star they want to deride as being 'no talent', IMO.

                            Classy of him to do so? Maybe not, but he's 85 and has a resume that very few in the business have ever touched. And he's got everyone talking about him just as a couple of TV specials about him are to air. So it seems like he still hasn't lost his touch to produce and create 'hits'.

                            Go for it, QJ.
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