Members ashasha Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 I haven't played a lot of Gibson semihollows, but I think that the Epiphone semihollows are really where they excel. I've owned a Dot, a Sheraton and a Casino from various countries of manufacture and dug the hell out of all of them. I swapped the pickups in all except the Casino which to be honest didn't need it. They all sounded fabulous in my opinion and didn't need much more than a good setup. That's part of what frustrates me so much about their solidbody guitars; it's like there is a huge disconnect in there for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members *BLEEP* Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Does a real Gibson really smoke a Epiphone by a mile? Nothing like that. Gibson smokes Marlboros by the pack (when he's not beating his wife, of course ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gas Hed Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Damn, I can't believe I missed all the action on this thread. Has anyone mentioned tone woods yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Does a real Gibson really smoke a Epiphone by a mile? Nothing like that. Gibson smokes Marlboros by the pack (when he's not beating his wife, of course ). Or praying in his private chapel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Damn, I can't believe I missed all the action on this thread. Has anyone mentioned tone woods yet? Yeah, that was a few hours ago; you didn't miss much, I think that it's a pretty peaceful discussion at this point. Not any real arguing going on (which is nice for a change), just sharing some opinions and stories and I've been asking lots of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fiveoclockhero Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Yeah, that was a few hours ago; you didn't miss much, I think that it's a pretty peaceful discussion at this point. Not any real arguing going on (which is nice for a change), just sharing some opinions and stories and I've been asking lots of questions. But then Mel Gibson showed up! NOTHING can be peaceful when that foul-mouthed bastard is around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sammyreynolds01 Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 But then Mel Gibson showed up! NOTHING can be peaceful when that foul-mouthed bastard is around! just give a good time in the hot tub and he's a nice guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members fiveoclockhero Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 That's what happens when an Alleykat meets a Dusk Tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brewski Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 before I respond to the Agile vs Gibson - IMHO I hate the Epiphone headstock. I also think for a few $$$ less you can get a Michael Kelly or Agile that has the saame quality of the Epi from the same factory. This - issue, it depends on the guitar and although your Agile plays superb (all mine have not) you have to pick and select the right one. Easier when you can play then but Kurt is semi-ok with returns Could very well be. To be fair my LP Classic is all mahogany vs the Agile which has a maple top; that could account for a lot of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members genesis3 Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Gibson doesn't really care...they make money either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Gibson doesn't really care...they make money either way ^^^this The fact that people have passionate arguments about this only raises their brand awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wartoxin Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Michael Kelly or Agile that has the saame quality of the Epi from the same factory fyi not the same country. Clearly all these guitars are different, agiles are a bit heavier, Michael Kellys of comparable price are medium - light, I just got one. Epiphones vary a lot, different weights, neck measurements, at some points they were listen with alder tops, that may depend on year. Either way all guitars have some fans out there, there's not just 1 true LP sound or feel, it's evolved and diverged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Elitists>Studio Gibsons, but I'd never say an LP Custom is inferior to an Elitist Owning both though, I'd say it's hard to compare those two. The Epi Elitist LP should be compared to the Gibson LP Standard since that's what they are copied after (unless of course the Elitist is a "Custom"). But the lighter build configuration and more modern voice pickups of a Studio makes it a different animal in my book. I have mixed feelings about Epiphones. Some I've bought I think are pretty great and others I've bought just seem like a start to something, but I agree with other comments and I tend to be concerned with the quality of the woods on Epiphones. Sometimes it's fine, but when you're talking about a build like a Les Paul, the quality of the wood is going to be important. If the wood is more dead sounding then you get this tone that sounds mostly like it's coming off the top of the guitar, i.e strings and hardware (bridge to nut). I've had similar issues with other import guitars, not just Epiphones. I was recently asking a Gibson authorized repair tech about this topic and he said he's seen some crappy woods inside of MIC Epiphones. He also believes the MIK days were better because back then the companies were hiring existing Korean luthier companies to build off shore models for them, whereas in China they are building the factories from the ground up and employing labor that had no pre-existing luthier skills. Now that's just his opinion, maybe it comes with a lot of experience and first hand observation, but I personally think Epiphone guitars are a bit better than they used to be in the 90s. At least is seems like the stock tone has gotten better which might just be due to some improvement in their pickups. But anyway, here's my Epi inventory. EPIPHONE 1958 KORINA EXPLORER (Mfr 2005 Saein Plant Korea) I like this guitar, but the stock p'ups are a bit phat sounding on this build - I'm upgrading soon to 57/57+ EPIPHONE ELITE (ELITIST) LES PAUL STANDARD (2003 MIJ Fujigen) Nice guitar-traditional weight, sounds good but doesn't compete with depth and complexity of tone from my Gibson '59 RI EPIPHONE LIMITED EDITION WILDKAT Transparent Sunrise Orange Doesn't stay in tune and needs a p'up upgrade unless you like to play with over drive tones, then it provides great classic cat scratching feverish rock tones, but not Rockabilly. The chrome covers add to the darker tone EPIPHONE LIMITED EDITION G-400 w EMG Pickups Cool guitar out of the box. The EMG 85 has a nice bluesy sound. The woods seem to add more character and less sterility to the EMGs with the thinner SG build. EPIPHONE 1958 KORINA FLYING V (Production May 2006 Saein Plant, Korea) Sounds great stock, very bluesy, from the bridge, could use a more articulate p'up at the neck. EPIPHONE LTD ED. RIVIERA CUSTOM P-93 Great value, again I like a bit more chime from my P-90s and the bridge p'up spacer is too tall for low action. Play it through something like a Blues Junior and it's cool stock. The phat works great with that amp EPIPHONE ELITIST CASINO does what you should expect. I'm just not sure it's for me because it's easy for me to put it down. Electric hollow-bodies are a different animal fer sher EPIPHONE POPA CHUBBY SIGNATURE FLYING V (P-90) - 2001 Saein Plant Korea One cool guitar - I will leave it totally stock. The korina brings more life to the Epi P-90s. I basically luv Epi Korina guitars. EPIPHONE WORN '66 WILSHIRE AGED CHERRY Surprisingly neat sounding guitar stock with the Epi Mini hums. Indonesian build quality is a bit sloppy but it all comes together in a comfortable nice sounding inexpensive package. I'd buy one again EPIPHONE LIMITED EDITION SLASH "APPETITE" LES PAUL STANDARD I like the guitar but it's one that could use a bit more depth to its tone on cleans. I often get closer to that by rolling off the tone knobs a bit. Don't know if my issue for sure is the woods or the Slash Alnico II Pro p'ups. But it's a beauty and with overdrive, it will do the Slash tones. The Alnico IIs retain lots of definition. I like this guitar but did get my 15% off EPIPHONE LTD ED G-400 DLX w/MAESTRO - Ebony + GIBSON BURSTBUCKER PROs I'm enjoying the heck out of this guitar since I upgraded the pickups. It also doesn't have a deep resonant tone to it, but it's now very chimey with a lot of vibe and sounds good clean, with OD or distortion. It was a great buy at $299 for a modding platform and it plays great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nevermind Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Sorry, the fact you own the Gibby Black Beauty makes all posts about all other guitars null and void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted February 19, 2011 Members Share Posted February 19, 2011 Sorry, the fact you own the Gibby Black Beauty makes all posts about all other guitars null and void Hah, that's funny and thanks for remembering. But I'm such a gear whore, I still love to dabble with the tramps as well. The Black Beauty is such a debutante that I was a bit saddened by a few of its minor imperfections and had to put it down until my darkness passes. But with something like an Epi, you get to start out with low expectations and you can make them ride in the back of the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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