Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted February 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2012 It is.duh. It is what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I don't live in Camden.But I do want to get out of NJ.In a few years.Maybe the Brian (Brian Krashpad) & the Bbreakers will be a band. the entire state is infected. move now before senility prevents you from rational conversation any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 It is what? It is.That's all we need to know.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZhrbE2rS1M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 the entire state is infected. move now before senility prevents you from rational conversation any longer. I used to live in Brooklyn, NY. In a few years I'll be a new neighbor to some lucky soul. Fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I used to live in Brooklyn, NY.In a few years I'll be a new neighbor to some lucky soul.Fun. that was a lifetime ago. you're an Armpit of American now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 that was a lifetime ago. you're an Armpit of American now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud-eiDxeJj4 see, you can't even figure out how to post videos. here, i'll help you. [video=youtube;Ud-eiDxeJj4] the Elephant Man. classic symptom of Jersey living. get out before it's too late. though, i'm afraid it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 the Elephant Man. classic symptom of Jersey living. get out before it's too late. though, i'm afraid it already is. Don't be mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Don't be mean. tough love. you'll thank me later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm going to file motions today in the NJ courts.If you want to see disturbing people.Go there.Family court is the most emotional.I feel bad for those kids.It's depressing. See ya later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm going to file motions today in the NJ courts.If you want to see disturbing people.Go there.Family court is the most emotional.I feel bad for those kids.It's depressing.See ya later. my wife works in family court in NYC. i hear about it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phillbis Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Don't care really what a fretboard is made of as long as it looks and feels right (I generally prefer ebony and maple to rosewood). That fretboard looks very nice so it would come down to how it felt for me. The concept of recycled material as a fretboard is pretty cool IMO, but like I said I'd want to try it in person.The guitar itself looks nice for sure. +1 I actually own one of these. I have several guitars that have ebony boards and you can't tell the difference between the ebony board and the Richlite board. I was able to play one of these before purchasing and thought it was an ebony board. I looked up the specs online and was surprised that it wasn't ebony. We'll see how long the fretboard lasts but overall this is a great guitar and a great price point. I was able to buy mine new for $1250 and these come with a hardshell case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 +1 I actually own one of these. I have several guitars that have ebony boards and you can't tell the difference between the ebony board and the Richlite board. I was able to play one of these before purchasing and thought it was an ebony board. I looked up the specs online and was surprised that it wasn't ebony. We'll see how long the fretboard lasts but overall this is a great guitar and a great price point. I was able to buy mine new for $1250 and these come with a hardshell case! next string change, would you mind posting a pic of the neck joint underneath the rhythm pickup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WhatDoIKnow Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Traditionalists will not like it. Others will use it as a way to bash Gibson. I actually commend Gibson for using an alternative material, but I am a little bit of a tree hugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_dave_c Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Paper is made of wood, resin is drawn from trees. I think this is fantastic. Plus, unlike baked maple, this actually looks good.Overall, that guitar looks fantastic and it's a very reasonable price considering Gibson. I love everything about that guitar. I like the shape, size, and overall vibe, and the fact that, it's a little bit different. Even they have the rear wiring access so that it's not a complete bitch changing wiring. Call me stupid but I dislike the VT/VT wiring greatly and even though I'd probably keep the pickups, I'd definitely redo the wiring my way (master volume, bridge tone, neck tone, master bass cut), and that would allow me to easily change things around.I don't need a guitar right now, but in a couple of years, if one of these pops up used, I could totally see myself buying one, and I don't say that about very many Gibsons. I hope people keep bashing the Bakelite, so that the prices crash. +1.21 jigawatts - thanks for typing all my thoughts out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted February 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2012 +1.21 jigawatts - thanks for typing all my thoughts out for me. And I'll second, third and fourth that, Gibson for me are showing great bravery, putting it about a bit and experimenting and seeing what the market says, I love that guitar, the price and after holding one today, I think Gibson will shift a lot of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I picked up one of the Obeche fretboard Gibson guitars simply because I didn't like them being pushed around by the Govt while their competitors (one of which has a board member who is setting up the President's library) were allowed to continue business as usual. I really like the guitar. It sounds great, played nice right out of the box and the fretboard looks a lot like the rosewood ones that Gretsch 'ebonizes' with dye. Just for the heck of it I pulled the frets out and did a refret. There were no issues getting the new frets in or anything and I don't see any problems with the material. All things being equal I would rather have a rosewood board on this one (and if the refret didn't take I would have just replaced the board) but I actually think that it's cool that Gibson is building guitars with sustainable wood - and I have seen some with low prices that look killer. I was in GC and they have a LPC looking guitar for about $1800 but it has a different fingerboard wood. Guitar looked great. For all the talk about wind farms, hybrid cars, etc... it's nice that there is a guitar builder out there offering a more "green" guitar - even if they're not doing it by choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 For all the talk about wind farms, hybrid cars, etc... it's nice that there is a guitar builder out there offering a more "green" guitar - even if they're not doing it by choice. I totally agree, so long as the material is suitable for the intended purpose. And I'm not saying this isn't, as I've never even seen obeche. I wish more manufacturers would experiment with sustainable products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrfan Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I for one think the Midtown looks great and the composite fretboard is a non issue. One of the best sounding acoustic guitars I've ever played is the Martin dx1 that has a body made of high pressure laminates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 my wife works in family court in NYC. i hear about it enough. So you know the drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nicholai Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Kramer used a composite bowling ball like material on the fretboards of their metal neck guitars in the early going.It was a viable substance.They used it to be different....not because their rosewood and ebony was confiscated by the feds. I'm not at all convinced Gibson can't source whatever wood they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tiltsta Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 The fingerboard on my steinbergers is made from phenolic resin with cellulose binder (I have no idea how similar that is to richlite). Anyway, the steinberger stuff feels like ebony, and looks brand new after like 25+ years of playing. I'd certainly buy something like that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_dave_c Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Martin uses Richlite, too. It's a brand name. Epiphone used a similar product, Ebonol on some guitars in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HarpBoy Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 The fingerboard on my steinbergers is made from phenolic resin with cellulose binder (I have no idea how similar that is to richlite). Anyway, the steinberger stuff feels like ebony, and looks brand new after like 25+ years of playing. I'd certainly buy something like that again. Sounds pretty close to Richlite. "Cellulose" is a wood fibre product, as is paper. Martin has been using Richlite for a number of years now; I owned a nice 16 series 12 string with a Richlite fingerboard. I loved it, in fact, liked the feel of it more than wood. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 srsly.... who the {censored} wants fukn birds on their fukn guitar ????? fukn stoopid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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