Members Flatspotter Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I hope they're going to harvest some of the trees they've already cut down and rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 4, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I hope they're going to harvest some of the trees they've already cut down and rejected. that's a very good question i would love to learn the answer too. it seems so simple, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Don't like streaky ebony? Problem solved: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I still fail to understand why they are even using it any more in the first place. Yes, Bob Taylor is doing the lesser of two evils with the key work being evil. What about creating a renewable source for ebony or something of the like? I mean, Bob Taylor is still contributing to the devastation of ebony on a whole only slowing the process down. That does not make him a hero to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 He's a slave to the dollar? People want ebony. So far none of the fretboard alternatives have gone over too well, people want the classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I noticed some coloration and "swirling" on my fretboard when I bought my Taylor. It was built in 2006, and I wondered why I'd never seen subtle beauty like it on an ebony board before. Now I know. Proud to own a Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 That was facinating and well produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flump Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Barring a financial meltdown of epic proportions I will be keeping my Taylor acoustic for my entire life. On another note: Am I the only one who really likes streaky ebony? I like it MUCH better than the very boring plain black ebony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 He's a slave to the dollar? People want ebony. So far none of the fretboard alternatives have gone over too well, people want the classics. In my opinion, there are too many people of the attitude of "I want what I want and to hell with the consequences". Any viable alternative they refuse to buy. Just look at the Gibson fanboys and the baked maple "controversy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'll take a richlite fingerboard any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Why use the ebony at all if it is endangered? At the end of the day, he is contributing to its demise.I realize that if he didn't take it someone would but still. Well....I would hope that to go along with what he said in the video, that his company also has a plan for sustainability as well. Yes there are a lot of things in the video he doesn't mention...and I'm damn sure what he's doing there is not perfect, but at least it sounds like he cares and is getting the ball rolling on responsibility. He seems to be genuine. Time will hold him accountable. It's important that even if big corporate leaders aren't being perfect...the ones that are being better than the others, should be supported and trumpeted. It sends an example to the rest of them that this is what consumers want. Causing them to have to up their game, in issues like this. Hopefully with even more pressure and questions too him, he will explain his companies policy towards sustainability and what they will do to ensure re growth of ebony in places the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I hope they're going to harvest some of the trees they've already cut down and rejected. yeah so do I. He didn't mention that but I would think it would be in his companies best interest to do that. Part of the labor is already done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 yeah so do I. He didn't mention that but I would think it would be in his companies best interest to do that. Part of the labor is already done. It would be more in the best interest of the contractor who actually has to go into the jungle to get the tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 At ten times the supply, I'm not sure there will be ten times the demand. As long as the price doesn't go down as a result of streaky ebony, I think the forests might have a chance to be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cbh5150 Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 Keep in mind, he didn't say that Cameroon is the last place for ebony in the world; he said it was the last place it was LEGAL to cut. I believe some of the gist of the video was that there was still ebony grown on other places, but was illegal to log it, and he's not using any underhanded shenanigans to source it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 Am I the only one who really likes streaky ebony? No. I don't order Ebony blanks very often, but when I do I make it a point to get 2nd's for the streaks. Looks like smoke in some cases. After a while, it'll darken anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Warfish Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 It sounds brilliant. But being pragmatic as a consumer, is the TLDR of this basicly "You, Mr. Consumer, will now get lower quality ebony for the price you once paid for perfect ebony"? Because thats what it sounds like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 yeah so do I. He didn't mention that but I would think it would be in his companies best interest to do that. Part of the labor is already done. unless the loggers were smart enough to split the logs and lift them above the ground, only the most recent cuts would still be worth salvaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 Because thats what it sounds like. it sounds like that because thats basically what it is. you as a custoemr will have to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 it sounds like that because thats basically what it is. you as a custoemr will have to deal with it. Except the differences are only cosmetic. There's nothing else "lower quality" about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimash Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 Good show Bob. My '72 Martin has streaked ebony. They dyed it. Stuff came off on my fingers for years .After 39 years the dye doesn't come off anymore and you can just barely see a streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 It sounds brilliant.But being pragmatic as a consumer, is the TLDR of this basicly "You, Mr. Consumer, will now get lower quality ebony for the price you once paid for perfect ebony"?Because thats what it sounds like. The difference is purely cosmetic and can be remedied with a $7 bottle of leather dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimash Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 The difference is purely cosmetic and can be remedied with a $7 bottle of leather dye. I agree purely cosmetic. Amazing that no one has asked these questions before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 The difference is purely cosmetic and can be remedied with a $7 bottle of leather dye. yep. i wouldn't be surprised to see new instruments that would have been offered with rosewood now offered with streaked ebony, now that the supply has increased by 900%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted June 5, 2012 Members Share Posted June 5, 2012 Dear Gibson, Les Paul Standard with one of these dirty ebony boards with MOP trapezoid inlays plox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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