Members honeyiscool Posted June 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 Only thing this shows is you have spent no time listening to tool, and don't know as much about music analysis as you constantly brag you do. Was that what you intended to demonstrate? [video=youtube;wGkTszdJT2I] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 I just think it's funny that the forumite who is ostensibly against musical stereotypes starts a stereotypical thread. I suspect he's ironically trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Mr_GoodBomb Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 They're often true, you know.Especially when it comes to how girls and guys in bands are different. The angriest feminist girl punk I ever hear still is very hook heavy. Not so much the angriest guy punk I hear. Girls like things that sound palatable, and know marketing is important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted June 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 I just think it's funny that the forumite who is ostensibly against musical stereotypes starts a stereotypical thread. I suspect he's ironically trolling. I don't know. Part of me is trolling but the other part of me thinks that it's important to recognize that being against stereotypes doesn't start with declaring that men and women are the same because they're not. Most women don't exactly want to be chest bumped like they were dudes. They should be appreciated the same and given the same rights, but clearly women and men act, think, compose, sing, and play differently on the whole. Why deny it? I like the diversity, and I'm glad that there are women in music, because women are more likely to make music the way I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 women are more likely to make music the way I like it. that's cool. it doesn't mean that all men are chest-bumping doofuses though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 I prefer the setting and the music of the first video. I must be a woman in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 I don't know. Part of me is trolling but the other part of me thinks that it's important to recognize that being against stereotypes doesn't start with declaring that men and women are the same because they're not. Most women don't exactly want to be chest bumped like they were dudes. They should be appreciated the same and given the same rights, but clearly women and men act, think, compose, sing, and play differently on the whole. Why deny it? I like the diversity, and I'm glad that there are women in music, because women are more likely to make music the way I like it. Fair enough. I also like some "girly" music, and a female touch can be a good thing in music. It must be said, however, for every Tool-ish band, there's a Sufjan Stevens (not a knock on him - I'm a fan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PunkKitty Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 My kind of "girly" music: [video=youtube;ocsNO_ISpEA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 If you think the Go-Gos are better than Tool, then you are out of your {censored}ing mind. Tool's music is much deeper concerning both the lyrics and arrangement than anything the Go-Gos ever dreamed of doing. If you prefer playing with women because you prefer jangly, vapid songs, well, that's your business and I am all for people being happy. Just don't try to convince me it is somehow superior to something else - especially when your example plumbs the depths of pop suckdom and is about as exciting as catching a crotch fungus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xrleroyx Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 The only thing this thread proves is that musical tastes can vary. The horse is dead. Let's stop beating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 you prefer girly pop music to darker, heavier stuff? stop the press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted June 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 If you think the Go-Gos are better than Tool, then you are out of your {censored}ing mind. Tool's music is much deeper concerning both the lyrics and arrangement than anything the Go-Gos ever dreamed of doing.If you prefer playing with women because you prefer jangly, vapid songs, well, that's your business and I am all for people being happy. Just don't try to convince me it is somehow superior to something else - especially when your example plumbs the depths of pop suckdom and is about as exciting as catching a crotch fungus.The biggest reason to dislike Tool is Tool fans, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joemonkey Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 If Adam Jones used a Rickenbacker instead of a silverburst Les Paul, this thread might have never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted June 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 Or if Adam Jones made more interesting music, perhaps. I mean, I really don't get what's so complex about any of Tool's music. The rhythms are nowhere near as complicated as their fans make them out to be, and there is seriously a lot of drop D chugging passing for riffage in Tool's music, and the dynamic buildup and arrangements are usually very predictable and consistent from song to song. They do have a very distinctive sound, that's for sure. I can hear any Tool song I haven't heard before and be able to identify it very quickly, but that to me also speaks to me of predictability and formulaic nature of a lot of what they do. Is Adam Jones even an above average player? I don't know, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 The biggest reason to dislike Tool is Tool fans, that's for sure. not liking a band because of their fans is the absolute worst reason possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 I mean, I really don't get what's so complex about any of Tool's music. ok there's a lot of bands who's music i don't "get"... i guess i don't have such an inflated opinion of my importance that i need to announce it to everyone, stating my opinion as fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted June 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 okthere's a lot of bands who's music i don't "get"... i guess i don't have such an inflated opinion of my importance that i need to announce it to everyone, stating my opinion as fact Announcing an opinion doesn't mean I think of it as fact, and if we didn't give opinions, there would be very little fun here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 Announcing an opinion doesn't mean I think of it as fact, and if we didn't give opinions, there would be very little fun here. FACT: this thread sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JRicoC Posted June 21, 2012 Members Share Posted June 21, 2012 The biggest reason to dislike Tool is Tool fans, that's for sure. I don't even know any "Tool fans", but I like some of their music. Why do you care what their fans are like? Do you listen to bands to pick up dates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jet9 Posted June 22, 2012 Members Share Posted June 22, 2012 I mean, I really don't get what's so complex about any of Tool's music. The rhythms are nowhere near as complicated as their fans make them out to be Any fans of any music who listen to it because it's 'complex' are doing it completely wrong. I like Tool because the music sounds good to me. Same reason why I don't like the Go-gos. Because I don't like the sound that comes out of my speaker when I play their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rex Machete Posted June 22, 2012 Members Share Posted June 22, 2012 What do I win for hating both of those first examples? Am I genderless? Also, sure is MAD in here. I never understand how people take music they listen to so seriously as a topic. Nothing is sacred, especially pop music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AVisme Posted June 22, 2012 Members Share Posted June 22, 2012 My kind of "girly" music:I love the song "Doom 84" off their new record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wayne2 Posted June 22, 2012 Members Share Posted June 22, 2012 Are we really in 2012 concerned about jangly vapid chick rock? Whatever that is, I love that stuff! [video=youtube;PCNtWX6ceh4] [video=youtube;xAODWmgRzWw] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted June 22, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 22, 2012 I don't even know any "Tool fans", but I like some of their music. Why do you care what their fans are like? Do you listen to bands to pick up dates? No, but if I did, I really wouldn't listen to Tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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