Members nevermind Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 If a "Vintage Modified" version of the Moderne were released with a better headstock, it would sell. Replacing the Moderne headstock with a Flying V or Les Paul straight-pull headstock would make the instrument more functional and less strange looking. the one "semi-verified" example of a prototype Moderne had a Les Paul neck.....that vintage modified enuff to suit you? The one Dan Erlewine had in 1970-1971 and subsequently passed through Gruhn's is the one I am referring to. It ended up in Japan at Ishibashi and became the model that Ibanez based their reproduction on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Mmmmmmm...oooookay, I can see that. Doing a Morris Day mini-set or something ? Oh no, that might be a tad gauche. This one goes with my suit of lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members curseoftruth Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 They were released. I've played all four of these at Mars Music (a defunct retailer). They were all junk in my opinion. All of these had cheap-o bolt-on necks with fairly abysmal fretwork. The bodies were made of Asian mysterywood. Actually you did not, would have been one of the released E-Series. Epiphone had the E-Series and yes many were released, however the ones pictured were not - those in the pic were prototypes. They did indeed have a Moderne but not like the one pictured. I had a E-Series V for about 2 hours, bought it at GC on blow-out for $99 and my wife was so pissed I took it back lol. Was not a well made guitar. Before I found my set neck re-issue, I probably lost 2 or 3 eBay auctions for e-series Modernes. Glad I never bought one of those. And mine is for sale if anybody is interested. I just did a count last night, I have to many guitars again lol. Here is an article on the e-series but they don't even mention the Moderne. It had a bolt on neck and no pickguard. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?doc_id=82007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EllenGtrGrl Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Epiphone Moderne It was part of an Epiphone limited edition USA collection that was never released. They were designed by Kurt Hendrick. Epiphone Comet Epiphone Apollo What about... Epiphone Futura Actually Epiphone did release the Futura, in a natural finish. I tried one out at my favorite guitar shop (Cream City Music) last year. It sounded pretty good, but sadly had the same bugaboo for me that every Explorer-type guitar has - the body shape clashes ergonomically with my playing style (I hang guitars up high), reared its ugly head up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Armitage Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 . Billy has been saying he has a Moderne for years now but no picture.This is it.Probably a clone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vikingrat Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 This is it. Probably a clone... It is. I read that most people at Gibson at the time doubt anymore than maybe two MIGHT have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shoeless Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 This is it. Probably a clone... Billy has always said he has one, but this is a clone that he tours with. Billy is also very well know for his tall tales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Radar-Love Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 there nothing "straight" about the pull on either of those models. I might add that I should have called the "Les Paul straight pull" headstock by its proper name, the Gibson straight pull headstock, which is often called the Pat Martino headstock. This headstock does pull the strings straight. The V (at least the Gibson V) headstock is nice and compact, but pulls the strings at slight angles across the nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vikingrat Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Billy has always said he has one, but this is a clone that he tours with. Billy is also very well know for his tall tales. This. I have met Billy before and he is a sweetheart but he plays his cards very close to his chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverse Entropy Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Epiphone Moderne_________Epiphone Comet_________Epiphone Apollo_________Epiphone Futura Forgive my strange tastes, but those have a 1960 "Space Age" Cool Factor that I like quite a bit. If the whole band dresses like Devo and plays surf music or quirky punk, I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TeleFromHelly Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Ugly. I like the epiphone remakes better (based on looks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzztone Posted August 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 Lookee what I found in my neighborhood store today. It was made by Glen Miller, the same guy that made this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tedmich Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 gibsonophiles have waaaaay more money than taste, its very well known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The REAL Rocker Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 I can't believe people would actually buy this. Some serious ugly going on there. I suppose its the same as people buying those hideous, outrageous BC Rich type dragon guitars.---------------Everyone in the world has different tastes, and I am sure that there are plenty of people who would and will consider what you like to be "ugly":facepalm:. Those "hideous" B.C. Rich guitars that resembled "dragons" to you, contained the finest Honduras Mahogany, Hawaiian Koa and Highest quality Maple along with Brazilian Rosewood, and then was HANDCARVED with machetes into a guitar:eek:, then outfitted with the finest hardware and pickups available at the time:thu:. Your tastes are your own, but the tone of these guitars has made them one of the highest collectable guitars in the new tier of guitar collecting.............The REAL Rocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billythegoat Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's so weird! I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The REAL Rocker Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 Guys, the reason the '58 Gibson Moderne is so mysterious is because it was probably never built. Ted McCarty was interviewed about it more than once and stated that he never saw one. He remembered that they intended to build 1 or 2 prototypes for NAMM, but he didn't believe it ever happened or they would have been shown and there was no record of them being seen. The only option to that is that they were built and destroyed to appease the gods of good taste, or were stolen by Gibson employees, which seems really far-fetched. Re: Billy Gibbons' Moderne. It's a fake, guaranteed. He just loves pulling peoples' chains over stuff like that. D ----------------First, I agree with you on Billy Gibbons. Billy nevers tell the truth about ANYTHING in his collection, and people have been calling him out for more than 30 years, and he has never been able to put up or shut up, even when people offered him the chance to do so quietly:rolleyes:. As for the McCarty quote, may I ask where that it was from? I was lucky enough to chat with Mr McCarty years ago, and was informed(by him, and other gibson employees from the past), that Gibson ALWAYS made several prototypes of all new models(better concensus of the model's playability and tonal questions). The Moderne was featured at N.A.M.M, and was written up in that year by one of the major science magazines. While it may have never gone into PRODUCTION, there was several made that were prototypes:). Perhaps there just wasn't enough offers to justify placing them into production(and If Mr. McCarty WASN'T the original designer, the model may have lacked a champion to push them thru.). I highly doubt they were stolen:cop:, since the guys in the factory could have built one for themselves quietly If they wanted one.............The REAL Rocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzztone Posted August 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's so weird! I love it! Thanks! I got it at a local store for $999. The same place I got the Firebird for $799 last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blazingblake Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 The body shape actually looks confortable to me but the original headstock is fugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MephitBlue Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 My only issue with the way the guitar looks is the headstock. I love the rest of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BryanMichael Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 THIS is the proper "update" for that particular Gibson Headstock, using Steinberger direct tuners:This one is from the "reverse explorer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzztone Posted August 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 This is where my guitar was made Hand Made Korina Guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rand-O-Monium Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 Love that Blk/Gold on that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 THIS is the proper "update" for that particular Gibson Headstock, using Steinberger direct tuners: This one is from the "reverse explorer" Yeah, put that on a Moderne and you have something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzztone Posted August 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 Billy Gibbons doesn't have string trees on his and he has the jack in the bottom. Mine has a satin finish on the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankthomson Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 Thanks! I got it at a local store for $999. The same place I got the Firebird for $799 last week. dood you got every fukn guitar evAr (and those pics still kill me ) if they did a reissue, id get one...would be kool in korina i like the gibson reverse(?) firebird studios MF has @ $850 great stuff dood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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