Members Dancebass Posted January 17, 2011 Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 Seriously. Yea man, seriously. The guy is a well of knowledge if you're willing to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 17, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 Yea man, seriously. The guy is a well of knowledge if you're willing to listen. I already told bluestrat and Gdan I was sorry if I took anything they said out of context. Gdan accepted (because he's not a troll), Bluestrat chose to continue being a patronizing trollbag. I'll stray away from a well of knowledge polluted with his ilk, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted January 17, 2011 Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 I already told bluestrat and Gdan I was sorry if I took anything they said out of context. Gdan accepted (because he's not a troll), Bluestrat chose to continue being a patronizing trollbag. I'll stray away from a well of knowledge polluted with his ilk, thanks. Why must you be such an angry young man, when your future looks quite bright to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 17, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 Why must you be such an angry young man, when your future looks quite bright to me? Hey, I said I was sorry. I'll say it again, just like I did two pages ago: "I'm sorry if I took anything anyone said out of context, thanks for watching". K, we good now? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted January 17, 2011 Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hey, I said I was sorry. I'll say it again, just like I did two pages ago: "I'm sorry if I took anything anyone said out of context, thanks for watching". K, we good now? Thanks I guess you're not a Styx fan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 17, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 I guess you're not a Styx fan.... Oh, I am. Well, not a -fan-, per say ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 17, 2011 Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 I guess you're not a Styx fan.... I knew there was SOMETHING I liked about the guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 17, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 I knew there was SOMETHING I liked about the guy.... bwahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted January 17, 2011 Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 I don't think Blue strat wears panties. Not so sure about your band though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soul-x Posted January 17, 2011 Members Share Posted January 17, 2011 My band also produced a fairly pro looking video with an almost nil budget. But like the OP, it was dependent completely upon generously loaned talent, equipment, facilities, and selfless help of many friends in the local music/art community. In fact, a poster here on BSWTB (whose username I am pathetically failing at recalling) posted in a thread here that his girlfriend was involved in it. I honestly can't assess what it should have cost us. Here's what an article written by a friend which describes the whole thing with better eloquence than I ever could: Local Slice Magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 I don't think Blue strat wears panties. Not so sure about your band though. Pretty smart, considering there's a hot girl in our band. You zinger, you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 My band also produced a fairly pro looking video with an almost nil budget. But like the OP, it was dependent completely upon generously loaned talent, equipment, facilities, and selfless help of many friends in the local music/art community. In fact, a poster here on BSWTB (whose username I am pathetically failing at recalling) posted in a thread here that his girlfriend was involved in it.I honestly can't assess what it should have cost us.Here's what an article written by a friend which describes the whole thing with better eloquence than I ever could: Local Slice Magazine. Nice! Where can I see the video? I searched but only found you playing it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soul-x Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 Nice! Where can I see the video? I searched but only found you playing it live. We haven't published it yet, since we wanted to have a release party for those involved, and had a series of shows that just weren't right to drop it at. The party's scheduled for next weekend. I'll try to remember to throw it up here after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 I don't give a rat's ass about attaboys, especially from sour, jaded fools like bluestrat. All I'm doing is putting it out there so people can watch it, and show what you CAN do, even when you're just a working band in your hometown.So you're just trying the get the video's view count up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 We haven't published it yet, since we wanted to have a release party for those involved, and had a series of shows that just weren't right to drop it at.The party's scheduled for next weekend. I'll try to remember to throw it up here after that. Awesome, I'd love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 SO you're just trying the video's view count up? You do know we're talking about Youtube, right? A website where more views = more publicity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 So how many of those 2,000 views were simply you clicking on it as much as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 So how many of those 2,000 views were simply you clicking on it as much as possible? Five (one for each band member's home IP address). Youtube tracks IPs, and we haven't cheated our numbers at all. Believe me, if I wanted to cheat the numbers like Myspace, I could. I don't want that. I want the views to go up organically, which is exactly what's been happening. All we've done is promote hard via twitter, our drunk dial line, facebook, newsletter, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 So how much more publicity does 2,000 hits get you in the world of YouTube where millions of hits is not unheard of? And what sort of publicity does a lot of hits get a band? I'm not trying to be snide, BTW, even though I know it sounds like that. I'm actually asking in all sincerity because I really don't know {censored} about YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 Five (one for each band member's home IP address). Youtube tracks IPs, and we haven't cheated our numbers at all. Believe me, if I wanted to cheat the numbers like Myspace, I could. I don't want that. I want the views to go up organically, which is exactly what's been happening. All we've done is promote hard via twitter, our drunk dial line, facebook, newsletter, etc. etc.Well, in spite of our pissing match, I still think you have a good band and wish you all the success you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sharkbait Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well, in spite of our pissing match, I still think you have a good band and wish you all the success you can get. Olive branch, 'killer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 So how much more publicity does 2,000 hits get you in the world of YouTube where millions of hits is not unheard of? And what sort of publicity does a lot of hits get a band?I'm not trying to be snide, BTW, even though I know it sounds like that. I'm actually asking in all sincerity because I really don't know {censored} about YouTube. No worries. So the first thing I'd say would be that to hit over 2,000 views in a week is a pretty big feat - usually it takes a much larger subscriber base to hit a number like that - we didn't have many when we started this, as we hadn't yet had something really worth it for youtube. The next thing I would say is that, the extra views in this case lead to a lot, because of converting those people from watchers to fans, which has been happening. Our newsletter and facebook visits have gone up 75% with this video, both of which already had good numbers. So the answer is that on Youtube, it's not yet a big hit (by youtube numbers) - but getting youtube frontpage spotlight isn't really something that happens for anything but really stupid videos, on average. Also, your average Video on youtube actually doesn't hit millions of views. An average YT video hits maybe a few thousand over six months. What I want is to get over 10,000 views, because that is Youtube partner worthy - that's when you start getting paid a portion of the ad money that comes into youtube from the views on your video, as long as you keep publishing content, which we plan to do. I very much want to reach that, and we're on a good road to getting there. The trick is to keep building, which gets views, subscribers, comments, and then youtube partnership. I have accounts with YT partnership that bring in a few hundred dollars a month, and that will be very useful for a working band. I'm happy to answer other questions if you want; I do SEO (search engine optimization) and social networking/advertising and I'm pretty into this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members botkiller Posted January 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well, in spite of our pissing match, I still think you have a good band and wish you all the success you can get. Then I wish you the same, and let's move on. I certainly didn't want to make enemies, here, and after all, we're all working musicians. Thanks for saying so, and I'm sorry for anything sour I've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 I do SEO (search engine optimization) Can I buy you a beer? I'll be PMing you probably tomorrow about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted January 18, 2011 Members Share Posted January 18, 2011 Then I wish you the same, and let's move on. I certainly didn't want to make enemies, here, and after all, we're all working musicians. Thanks for saying so, and I'm sorry for anything sour I've said. It's all good. I can be a dick sometimes. Anyone here can tell you that. I just read some of your blog entries, and I agree about the internet and paying for music ones. Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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